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Old 05-17-2007, 09:01 PM
frostbrn frostbrn is offline
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Default NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($60.45)
Hero ($52.35)
CO ($86.35)
Button ($32.85)
SB ($65.55)
BB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($8.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $10</font>, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($28.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40.35</font>, CO calls $20.35.

River: ($109.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $109.20
I'm a SnG donk trying to learn cash, and I'm really out to sea on this hand. Villain is 50/12 over 60 hands. I had no idea what to make of the min-raise, so I decided to c/c and c/r all in on a safe turn card. Is this right on this board, or am I way off? Comments on all streets welcome and appreciated!
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

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Villain is 50/12 over 60 hands

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I think you played it well
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

This line is fine although I would consider 3-betting the flop to be my standard play here
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

I'd fold this preflop, but as played, I don't like the turn. If you're looking to get it in on the turn, lead and call AI. I think we could easily see KJ here for a flopped straight, some sort of a combo draw, or a set. We basically are only solidly ahead of air, top pair, and lower two pair. I don't think I find a fold here. Tough spot, I think, created by raising QTs preflop.
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

IMO this is standard given effective stacks. Sorry you lost.
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

Having 2 CCers is a horrible situation (if they play decent)

min raises are synonymous with sets, that's a known fact in the uNL community..

so I'm going to go ahead and say he set his 9s here..

FWIW though I think your line here is pristine even though you lost [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

edit: min-raises also = the nuts..he had KJ
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

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I'd fold this preflop, but as played, I don't like the turn. If you're looking to get it in on the turn, lead and call AI. I think we could easily see KJ here for a flopped straight, some sort of a combo draw, or a set. We basically are only solidly ahead of air, top pair, and lower two pair. I don't think I find a fold here. Tough spot, I think, created by raising QTs preflop.

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This is very nitty/weak tight. If we're playing for stacks here c/rai is optimal and raising this preflop is standard
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

I think once he bets the turn, we can narrow his range (like getting rid of flush/straight draws and keeping made hands)

So, using this as his range on the turn, looks like you are about 47%, which is an easy c/r ai given pot size (i think).

TT-99,AQs,KJs+,Q8s+,J8s,AQo,KJo+,Q8o+,J8o
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

He has KJ here at least 75% of the time in my experience

preflop: "I have an above average hand, not strong enough to 3bet"

The min raise + turn bet: "I have to raise it cause there's a fd, but please don't leave"
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Top 2 gets min-raised on coordinated board

Thanks for all the helpful comments guys. Results: he had KJo. Does anyone ever c/f the turn if they don't fill up?
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