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Old 06-10-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default KK versus unknown

Villain is unknown.

My plan was to c/r AI on the turn as he only has $113 left at that point. But then he makes a really small turn bet and it seemed like too much of an overbet to shove.

I shove the river thinking this guy seems really bad from this hand and might call me with worse but will probably check behind with hands I beat. I don't think I can fold despite the gross board as he only has 1/3 of the pot left.

No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players

Hero ($198 in chips)
MP ($147 in chips)
CO ($117.49 in chips)
BU ($174.10 in chips)
SB ($31.18 in chips)
BB ($226.80 in chips)

----- HOLE CARDS -----
Dealt to hero [K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Hero raises to $8, MP calls, 4 folds.

Flop: ($19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $13, MP raises to $26, Hero calls.

Turn: ($71) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP bets $16, Hero raises to $50, MP calls.

River: ($171) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in to $63,
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: KK versus unknown

Horrible board, you're only really beating KJ/AJ. That said I kind of understand the river push. Against an unknown I'd rather 3 bet the flop to get a better feel for where I am.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: KK versus unknown

What about just reraising the flop.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: KK versus unknown

Why reraise the flop? The board isn't scary yet and this minraise is often air, sometimes a big hand. I can comfortably c/r AI on the turn if he makes anything close to a reasonable bet. This way I get the most from air/top pair.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: KK versus unknown

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Why reraise the flop? The board isn't scary yet and this minraise is often air, sometimes a big hand. I can comfortably c/r AI on the turn if he makes anything close to a reasonable bet. This way I get the most from air/top pair.

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True. Personally, I don't like being fancy against complete unknowns. That said, I think the way you played it is definately profitable.

What did you put him on after his turn bet?
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:00 PM
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I don't mind your call and c/r all in on the turn line. I think you just go through with it even if its a obscure looking over bet because then it looks more like a bluff that may be called down by top pair in some cases especially at 1/2. I think you could even do a bluffy looking shove on the flop and hope they look you up with a jack.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: KK versus unknown

just c/shove the turn.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: KK versus unknown

All in with open ended ST. on the board?

Are you serious?
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:34 PM
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just c/shove the turn.

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agreed. you need to put JT/87 type hands to a decision for all their chips.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:57 PM
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just c/shove the turn.

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