quick preflop - K8s 3bet from SB 15/30

[admiralfluff]

Hopefully preflop is the only questionable street.

Villain is grazi. 51/32/2.0 overagg donktard. ASB of 57, WtSD 46, large sample.

He opens from the button and I 3bet K8s from the SB, BB folds.

I lead a K Q 7 flop (rainbow with one of my suit), he raises, I 3bet, and lead out rag turn and rag river.

[jay b.]

If grazi is a showdown donkey I call here (preflop) depending on my image with him and BB's preflop range 2bets vs. 3bets and his postflop tendencies.

[jay b.]

FWIW I play postflop exactly the same when I 3-bet here. Don't feel like I'd get a good check raise on any streets here, feels like a 7 that'll call down.

[danzasmack]

nh i play it the same

[Hoi Polloi]

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Hopefully preflop is the only questionable street.

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Based on read and stats your hand is certainly worth playing. Getting the BB to fold improves your chances so the 3-bet is correct. Well flopped and well-played.

nh

[helpmeout]

getting BB to fold improves your chances for what? calling down with K high?

I'd call preflop rest is fine.

[admiralfluff]

Is the 2/3 b;ind structure a factor here? What about different types of players in the BB?

I agree that there could be many tricky situations where we need to get to SD with K high with the 3-bet.

[helpmeout]

well you have a very loose and agro opponent you have a weakish king and you are OOP

I'd much rather keep my investment cheap and hope to hit a flop and gain multiple bets that way over isolating with a weak hand OOP and then wondering what to do when he raises later and I have K high.

[wackjob]

3bet PF sucks, for reasons pointed out: likep laying a marginal hand OOP. rest seems good.

[StellarWind]

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Is the 2/3 b;ind structure a factor here?

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The lower cost to play makes folding a less attractive option.

Once you decide that you want to play the hand the blind size has no effect on whether you should raise or just call. A good way to visualize this is through an imaginary string raise process:

1. You decide not to fold.

2. You add enough chips to the pot to call the raise.

3. There are now five bets in the pot. You must decide whether to reraise by putting another bet in or just leave things as they are now. Clearly the original small blind size has become irrelevant. All that matters is how much money is in the pot. How and when the money came to be in the pot is ancient history.

Note: I'm ignoring the fact that the blind size could affect your opponents' ability to read your hand. For example if K8s was one of only a very few hands that you were calling with (instead of raise/fold) in a 1/2 structure that could be a serious problem and a reason to do something else. But in a 2/3 structure your calling range might be much larger because you can play a bunch more weakish hands. If that's the case then you might raise at 1/2 and call at 2/3. But in practical online play no one knows you that well so it doesn't really matter.