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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
Flop was good.
Leading out on the turn is okay, but just call the raise. |
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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
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Flop was good. Leading out on the turn is okay, but just call the raise. [/ QUOTE ] What's the point of betting the turn? |
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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
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[ QUOTE ] Flop was good. Leading out on the turn is okay, but just call the raise. [/ QUOTE ] What's the point of betting the turn? [/ QUOTE ] Since CO took his foot off the gas on the flop, I was hoping we'd still be able to bet the draws for value when he and BB call. On second thought, you're right that we don't have 1/3 of the equity in the pot. I'm counting 1.5 discounted outs for the straight (assuming it's good 50% of the time), 1 discounted out for the overcards (assuming you're good 20% when they hit), and 9 outs for the flush for 11.5 total. Correct my math if I'm wrong but I think we need to have 15 outs and never get raised to bet the draw for value. |
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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
No one folds draws in the mircos so on the turn you are putting in money strictly for the times your draw is going to come in and win the pot. With only 3 people in the pot you need a better draw to be raising.
Leading the turn in this situation costs you money in the long run because of all the times you're going to miss your draw. Raising is bad, ace high isn't a value hand here. |
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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
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With only 3 people in the pot you need a better draw to be raising. [/ QUOTE ] 9 flush, 3 fives, 3 queens, 3 aces...18 outs? The bigger problem, imo, is the likelihood that CO will raise us again and drive out BB. I'd check with an eye to raising if there's a bet and a call behind us. |
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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
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9 flush, 3 fives, 3 queens, 3 aces...18 outs? [/ QUOTE ] You don't think these odds are sliiiiightly tainted iven villains line? We may very well have only 7 outs here. |
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Re: AQ with a ton of outs, how do I get the most value?
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[ QUOTE ] 9 flush, 3 fives, 3 queens, 3 aces...18 outs? [/ QUOTE ] You don't think these odds are sliiiiightly tainted iven villains line? We may very well have only 7 outs here. [/ QUOTE ] If CO flopped a flush, his line is retarded. I'm more worried about BB taking away some of our flush outs than CO. The only hand CO's got that I'm worried about is Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Jx. |
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