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Old 09-28-2007, 08:18 AM
xerber xerber is offline
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Default Fold in a big pot for one bet

SB is LAG
MP3 is unknown

I think MP3īs flop-range is 44,55,TT,KT,AT,overs of clubs and NFD - straightdraw is unlikely be cause of his CC preflop, but i donīt know for sure.
SB might have one of the draws in a best case scenario.

My outs are also not clean if iīm behind and not drawing dead: Jc is probably not good, the other jacks could give MP3 a better two pair or a straight and a ten would make no difference in case iīm already dominated.

I would calldown HU vs. MP3, but 3-way... i really donīt know.

Whatīs your opinion?


Titan Limit Hold'em, $1/$2 (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

Button ($52.05)
SB ($22.20)
BB ($58.25) (Hero)
MP2 ($66.15)
MP3 ($166.04)
CO ($26.97)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( 5BB )
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls,

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 9,5BB )
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero folds</font>
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:35 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: Fold in a big pot for one bet

awful. Don't fold flop-TP on a drawy board like this. Also you close the street and can hit trips or 2-pair on river
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Fold in a big pot for one bet

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Jc is probably not good

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Its gonna be good more often than not. Definetely worth more than 0.5 outs


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the other jacks could give MP3 a better two pair or a straight

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LOL? So you think MP3 3-bet the flop with QJ or AK? C'mon man!

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and a ten would make no difference in case iīm already dominated.


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True. But thats only against AT, KT and QT.


You have to realize that MP3 can have worse T's like T9s and T8s. He can also have worse pp's like 99 and 88.

You are getting 11.5:1 on the turn. With positive implied outs on the river from catching you need about 3.5 outs on average.

You are way way to pessimistic if you dont think you have that many outs.


This is a good example of silly TAGs folding too much. (No offense)
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:55 AM
Pondy Pondy is offline
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Default Re: Fold in a big pot for one bet

I'd be more worried about the SB. He's staying in no matter what.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:06 AM
xerber xerber is offline
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Default Re: Fold in a big pot for one bet

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the other jacks could give MP3 a better two pair or a straight

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LOL? So you think MP3 3-bet the flop with QJ or AK? C'mon man!


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yeah, QJcc and AKcc.
thx for the answers, now i see itīs a calldown.

Do you guys have a standard range for someone who CC prefold?
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Fold in a big pot for one bet

"thx for the answers, now i see itīs a calldown. "

well i wouldn't go that far but the turn is def a call
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