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Old 10-18-2007, 02:20 AM
MuresanForMVP MuresanForMVP is offline
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Default Ryan Braun named Baseball America ROY

Article found here . Thoughts? In the top 20 prospects list (subscriber content didnt know if I should just start posting it inline...mods help me out here?) they say that despite Braun's ineptitude on defense, the home and away splits of Tulo's OPS (.960 at home vs. .719 away) is what tipped it in Braun's favor. This indicates that it's more than likely that Braun will be voted as NL ROY in the real awards.

Here are the top 20 as rated by BA this season:

1). Braun
2).Tulowitzki
3).Pedroia
4).Chris Young
5).Hunter Pence
6). Dice-K
7). Tim Lincecum
8).Jeremy Guthrie
9).James Loney
10).Kevin Kouzmanoff
11).Yovani Gallardo
12).Brian Bannister
13).Delmon Young
14).Mark Reynolds
15).Joakim Soria
16).Kyle Kendrick
17).Alex Gordon
18).Micah Owings
19).Yunel Escobar
20).Josh Hamilton

One notable exception is Joba Chamberlain, who was lights out for the Yankees from when he got called up until when the Yanks got bounced. disclaimer:I don't like the Yankees and I don't like Chamberlain. I'm not familiar with the criteria, but will Joba still be considered a rookie next year, and does BA only take you into account after you've exhausted your rookie status?
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Ryan Braun named Baseball America ROY

If Joba wasn't on the list at all, I would assume he didn't meat the minimum requirements for rookie status (I'm too lazy to look it up).
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Ryan Braun named Baseball America ROY

Braun also named NL ROY by Sporting News:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=290147

A-Rod POY
Wedge AL Manager
Pedroia AL ROY
Carlos Pena AL Comeback
Melvin NL Manager
Dmitri Young NL Comeback
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Ryan Braun named Baseball America ROY

By the way, this seems to be one of the better rookie crops in quite some time.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Ryan Braun named Baseball America ROY

Chris Young and Tulowitzki would like to point out that they also play in the field, unlike a glorified DH like Braun.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Ryan Braun named Baseball America ROY

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Chris Young and Tulowitzki would like to point out that they also play in the field, unlike a glorified DH like Braun.

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he contributes less than a DH in the field
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:30 AM
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baseballprospectus has Tulowitzski as a dominant defensive player, is that consistent with other metrics

Tulowitski +45FRAR at SS
Braun -10FRAR at 3B
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:23 AM
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baseballprospectus has Tulowitzski as a dominant defensive player, is that consistent with other metrics

Tulowitski +45FRAR at SS
Braun -10FRAR at 3B

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I don't know about Tulo, but there was a blog post today on Braun. To sum it up, Braun was terrible by all metrics and was quite possibly the worst defensive player in baseball. Talk of a move to RF has begun.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:44 AM
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Talk of a move to RF has begun.

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Yeah, there has been some talk of moving him to the outfield. The problem the Brewers have with that is that Corey Hart will be a fixture in the OF, probably in RF, and Bill Hall will probably stay in CF, unless they can find a better one and move him back to the IF. LF could be an option, but they are grooming LaPorta, their 1st round pick this year, for that position.

I believe most of Braun's errors were of the throwing variety, so that should be something that can be corrected (plus Fielder, while not a downright liability at 1B, doesn't quite help Braun avoid errors). Rickie Weeks was absolutely horrendous at 2B when he first made the jump to the majors and he has improved, although he still has plenty of work to do. Keep in mind that Braun just recently started playing 3B - he had been a SS in college - so he's probably still figuring it all out.

I doubt he will ever be Brooks Robinson over there, but I have no reason to think that he won't be able to improve to become at the very least an average fielding 3B.

I think Braun and Tulo were pretty even for ROY. Braun's downfall was obviously his piss poor fielding, while Tulo arguably wouldn't have been in the ROY conversation if he played for another team, given his poor offensive numbers on the road.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:13 AM
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Talk of a move to DH should begin

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Is it too late for the Brewers to go back the AL?
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