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Old 10-15-2007, 03:28 PM
UlidEyes UlidEyes is offline
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The thing is, I give the Bush administration more credit than that. I'm not saying they're not evil, killing, raping, bastards. I am saying that they aren't stupid. There is money being made here, and it's the greatest con on the rest of the world. Why would we continue this ridiculous wasteful spending otherwise? Why would the democrats continue to support it? It HAS to be benefiting us, but under the table, and underreported. As far as continually asking for more tax money, it is probably worth pumping as much money possible into it, if we're getting the results we want. Divide and conquer ftw.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:42 PM
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The thing is, I give the Bush administration more credit than that. I'm not saying they're not evil, killing, raping, bastards. I am saying that they aren't stupid. There is money being made here, and it's the greatest con on the rest of the world. Why would we continue this ridiculous wasteful spending otherwise? Why would the democrats continue to support it? It HAS to be benefiting us, but under the table, and underreported. As far as continually asking for more tax money, it is probably worth pumping as much money possible into it, if we're getting the results we want. Divide and conquer ftw.

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When you say it "has to be benefitting us" who are you including in "us"?

Who is the "we" that is getting the results "we" want?

Are you a member of congress?
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:22 PM
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the US govt, as a collective source of revenue, which then filters it's way back into the corporations that control it.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:32 PM
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There are no benefits to this war, at all. They trade with all the freedom loving, rich, non-muslim countries of the west. They even trade with us, even though they hate us. There is no reason to go to war for oil, and besides with all the new technologies, they would rather sell us oil now, than have solar/wind/nuclear come into fashion, and be stuck with all this useless oil.

I can't see how we can ever make up the the trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives this war has cost us.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:55 PM
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The thing is, I give the Bush administration more credit than that. I'm not saying they're not evil, killing, raping, bastards. I am saying that they aren't stupid. There is money being made here, and it's the greatest con on the rest of the world. Why would we continue this ridiculous wasteful spending otherwise? Why would the democrats continue to support it? It HAS to be benefiting us, but under the table, and underreported. As far as continually asking for more tax money, it is probably worth pumping as much money possible into it, if we're getting the results we want. Divide and conquer ftw.

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Canis has had some better arguments than this guy...
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:07 PM
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the US govt, as a collective source of revenue, which then filters it's way back into the corporations that control it.

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So you think "the US" is making money off of the war??? Where is this magical revenue coming from, exactly?
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:44 PM
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ROI = http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo ... ROI is huge for a fraction of the %1 of the people such as the Military Industrial Complex and the elite. First Afghanistan's natural gas pipeline, then Iraq's oil, next Iran's oil ? How long before Venezuela starts becoming a millitary powerhouse threatnening the US *LAUGHS* and must be invaded for their oil sands which is even greater by just a bit than Alberta's oil sands.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:51 PM
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ROI = http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo ... ROI is huge for a fraction of the %1 of the people such as the Military Industrial Complex and the elite

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Nit: the "military-industrial complex" is not an entity. It's not some conglomerate of people and companies. When Ike uttered this phrase, he was using it in the *psychological* sense. That politicians should avoid developing such a MENTAL DISORDER. It seems his warnings have gone unheeded, as the (corporate) welfare-warfare state continues to grow, and grow, and grow.
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