2/4 Hit AK on a nice board. Can I ever get away?

wpr101 · #1 09-12-2006, 08:16 PM

Villian is Rafchu who is 18/12. Don't know much else about his tendencies. One thing to note is that he took a long time to call the turn bet... took a note on him for that.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($163.65)
CO ($400)
Button ($369.05)
SB ($321.05)
BB ($434.50)
Hero ($394.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $4.
Hero raises to $16, MP calls $16, 1 fold, Button raises to $60, 2 folds, Hero calls $44, MP folds.

Flop: ($146) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $40, Hero raises to $116, Button calls $76.

Turn: ($378) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $218.2 (All-In), Button calls $193.05 (All-In).

River: ($789.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $789.25

Big_Jim · #2 09-12-2006, 08:22 PM

Fold PF.

I would probably check/call the flop.

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One thing to note is that he took a long time to call the turn bet

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Who cares, you're all in.

wpr101 · #3 09-12-2006, 08:24 PM

Why is this a fold preflop? If it was suited is it a call?

Big_Jim · #4 09-12-2006, 08:26 PM

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Why is this a fold preflop? If it was suited is it a call?

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AK doesn't play that well in RRed pots without being the aggressor because of bad reverse implied odds. Wayy too often you win a small pot, lose a big one. Especially OOP.

4-Bet PF > Call, IMO.

AKs you can call with, though, since a flush draw will always have a bunch of equity, and often be the best hand, over QQ or something.

wpr101 · #5 09-12-2006, 08:29 PM

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Why is this a fold preflop? If it was suited is it a call?

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AK doesn't play that well in RRed pots without being the aggressor because of bad reverse implied odds. Wayy too often you win a small pot, lose a big one. Especially OOP.

4-Bet PF > Call, IMO.

AKs you can call with, though, since a flush draw will always have a bunch of equity, and often be the best hand, over QQ or something.

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Yea good point. Over 37k hands I have won 602 with AKo and 1121 with AKs. It seems like it should be higher. Average stake is probably 1.5/3.

EDIT: One more question... is it better to call with a hand like 67s here than AKo if I decided I would not fold to this villian's RR?

Jamougha · #6 09-12-2006, 08:43 PM

Preflop, I'd fold against someone who seems tight (like this guy) and doesn't 3-bet regularly. Against some I'd 4-bet or call and crai on a variety of flops, this probably being one of them if he hadn't made such a dumb little bet.

JKratzer · #7 09-12-2006, 08:48 PM

fold pf for reasons big jim said. flop c/c would be fine, or bet/fold. c/r doesn't do much since he's going to fold everything you beat but at least when he calls you now know you're behind. c/f turn.

PatInTheHat · #8 09-12-2006, 08:49 PM

I don't hate a call in position but out of position this is always a fold or a 4bet.

bruin · #9 09-12-2006, 09:01 PM

i usually call here PF... but this may be a leak.

flop is weird. His bet really reeks of AA/KK. I think i just call here and see what's up on turn.

Judging by the way you described his hand and the way it went down im guessing he had AA.

wpr101 · #10 09-12-2006, 09:04 PM

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i usually call here PF... but this may be a leak.

flop is weird. His bet really reeks of AA/KK. I think i just call here and see what's up on turn.

Judging by the way you described his hand and the way it went down im guessing he had AA.

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Yea this may be a big leak for me. But isn't folding AK here pretty exploitable and weak tightish? He had KK.