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Old 05-23-2007, 01:38 AM
DerekP DerekP is offline
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Default NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

Looking back over a mistake, hoping to learn some lessons [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mainly what I'm looking for is feedback on my line of thought; If it makes sense or am I making bad plays based on theories I don't quite understand.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $4.35
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $11.95</font>
UTG: $15.05
CO: $1.35
BTN: $4.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.30

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.30</font>, SB calls $0.30

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($1.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, SB calls $0.60

<font color="black">River:</font> ($3.90) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.45</font>, SB calls all-in for $2.45

Pot Size: $8.80 ($0.85 Rake)

SB had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Ace high) and WON (+$3.60)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$4.35)

Preflop Play

I raised 4xBB instead of 5xBB or 5xBB+1 because I wanted to isolate with AKo; and I felt 4xBB was enough to knock one player out. (Which played out that way as well.)

Flop Play

The flop texture seemed completely harmless, 3 suits and no straight possibilities.

I figure I have the best hand, and I also figure if I bet 50-75% of the pot, he'll probably fold 80% of the time. I bet around 30% of the pot because I figured he'd call that bet 75% of the time, and I have the best hand.


Turn Play

In my opinion, my biggest mistake was here.

I minraised to $3.30 when he bet, with $.60 to go, giving him correct pot odds to call the straight draw.

I didn't consider all the hands my opponent could have. I mainly thought he might have a pair of jacks, but I didn't consider the possibility of a straight draw. (Or KJ 2 pair, for that matter.)

River Play

Again, I didn't see the straight possibility and I had top 2 pair.

I think I would have bet the river no matter what; but my biggest mistake was not raising more on the turn, so when he doesn't make his straight I'd get paid off more.

Thoughts?

Thanks ya'll
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:43 AM
coordi coordi is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

i dont see a huge msitake here, how do you read him to hit runner runner straight from nothing on the flop. mabey raise more on turn by like .60 or .80. I dont see how you dont stack yourself in the end though.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

Bet 60c on the flop, and probably shove the turn.

Valuebetting the river is very necessary though.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:59 AM
iamVillaiNmo iamVillaiNmo is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

Raise more on the turn, none of this minraise garbage.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:01 AM
johndenver johndenver is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

I really dont like betting small on the flop to string him along, I would make that play if I had a monster hand, top pair is good but not great, I dont want him to hang around for cheap and suck out on me with 2 pair or some other draw
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:06 AM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

Preflop. Ignorance of basics. Need to bet more.

Flop. Same.

Turn. Same.

River is only all right street.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

preflop is fine, he's first one in
flop - don't minbet it, I'd do something like .7
Turn - call it, I wouldn't raise it
River - Raise just a little more (unless u feel 1/2 pot is ideal), but river is the only good street

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Old 05-23-2007, 10:33 AM
AFennewald AFennewald is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

Bet more on the flop. Given how short he is shove over his turn bet.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

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i dont see a huge msitake here

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Old 05-23-2007, 11:14 AM
yo5ty yo5ty is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Top Pair Mistake Review

The min raise on the should be a shove if you feel your ahead, especially given his stack size.
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