2/4 - TPTK but I don't think I'm ahead of anything

[BearHustler]

Villain is 30/20/3.5 over 576 hands. We've been 3-betting each other back and forth. He seems to Cbet and fold to Cbet a lot. (both ~70% I think)

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($749.90)</font>
BB ($356.00)
UTG ($391.00)
MP ($309.30)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($538.20)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $57</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $53, Hero calls $39.

Flop: ($175) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $115</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $115.

Turn: ($405) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks

Now what?

[Paul B.]

Given your history, I'd say bet and call a shove.

[AAismyfriend]

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Given your history, I'd say bet and call a shove.

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yeeaaaaa boooyyy!!

[Nielsio]

How is this not a 4-bet preflop?

[AAismyfriend]

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How is this not a 4-bet preflop?

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Yea no kidding I shove this all day preflop, and I don't think it's close.

[BearHustler]

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How is this not a 4-bet preflop?

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Because MP is pretty fishy and could show up with all kinds of hands here. He's not tough postflop and I could get value from him. He might refuse to fold with whatever preflop, and I'd be in a tough spot on a flop without an A or K. As played, I wanna hit a hand.

HU vs villain, I got it in PF with AK a few hands later. I just don't do it every time.

[jpsnow]

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How is this not a 4-bet preflop?

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Yea no kidding I shove this all day preflop, and I don't think it's close.

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Agree

As Played Pre: Raise flop and call all in

As Played Flop: Bet turn call all in

[jpsnow]

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How is this not a 4-bet preflop?

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Because MP is pretty fishy and could show up with all kinds of hands here. He's not tough postflop and I could get value from him. He might refuse to fold with whatever preflop, and I'd be in a tough spot on a flop without an A or K. As played,I wanna hit a hand.

HU vs villain, I got it in PF with AK a few hands later. I just don't do it every time.

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There is so much money in the pot already, its great to just take it down preflop without having to have your hand have to hold up/hit vs a med PP.
Also, you would be 4 bet shoving so you wouldnt have to worry about hitting an A or K. By just calling the 3 bet you do.

[BearHustler]

As for the bet turn, call shove line:

What is he shoving with that I beat?

I know he's doing it with AA, QQ, 99, 77, AQ, KhQh, and any SC that hit the flush.

On the turn, my stack is smaller than the pot, so he knows he's not bluffing me if I bet but leave something behind.

So we need to come up with a hand range that he shoves (when he knows I'll call) that is a lot bigger than the hands I listed before.

[bigbabyjesus]

I would just shove preflop with all the money in the pot.