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#21
10-22-2007, 05:36 PM
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Re: FR Theory: KTs on the button, 3 limpers in front
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I think raise>>>fold>call. What kind of flop are you looking for with a call? If you have a FD it may very well be the second best one. If you make a pair you will be outkicked much of the time. If you miss the flop someone will have bet before the action comes to you and now you have to fold (or bluffraise, but I'm not suicidal most of the time so I don't do it too frequently). If the flop checks to you then you will have to fire multiple barrels if you're bluffing against someone who c/c the flop, but at the same time might lose value in checking behind on the turn and/or river if you are actually ahead. If you take the pot down on the flop it will be very small. By raising you will take down the pot more often on the flop and it will be larger. Furthermore, the instances in which you do flop a big hand allow for you to get stacks in instead of getting like 25 BB in. [/ QUOTE ] 
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#22
10-22-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: FR Theory: KTs on the button, 3 limpers in front
I'll raise to $3.50 if there are no shortstacks. I do this because people actually fold to raise that are $3 or more. You also represent alot of strength by raising so many limpers and raising so much.
I will not raise if there is a shortstack and hope to hit a big draw.
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#25
10-22-2007, 07:48 PM
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Re: FR Theory: KTs on the button, 3 limpers in front
My game has evolved since I've played nl50, but at nl200 I'd raise to 7BBs 100% of the time, basically hoping to steal the limps but certainly not minding if I get a call or even two if they're more or less set miners.
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#27
10-22-2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: FR Theory: KTs on the button, 3 limpers in front
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[ QUOTE ] I think raise>>>fold>call. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] calling with KTs on the button with 3limpers is -EV??? wtf folding is 0EV, so for calling to be worse than folding, you have to lose money on the call no way in hell nl50 is tough enough that calling is -ev for a decent player
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#28
10-22-2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: FR Theory: KTs on the button, 3 limpers in front
I also think that folding is the worse option here, but raising or calling is dependent on some of the table factors already mentioned.
One particular one that you guys mentioned is the presence of shortstackers - however, if shortstackers are among the limpers, I actually would tend to favour a raise to encourage them to all-in. If they limped, they're rarely ahead of you by much, and with all the dead money, it's an overall +EV situation in my estimation. And if they fold, fine too. If we changed this to KTo on the button, my feeling is calling is -EV now, and folding is a better option than calling. Here, it's a decision between raising and folding depending on table conditions, IMO.
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#29
10-22-2007, 10:37 PM
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Re: FR Theory: KTs on the button, 3 limpers in front
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think raise>>>fold>call. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] calling with KTs on the button with 3limpers is -EV??? wtf folding is 0EV, so for calling to be worse than folding, you have to lose money on the call no way in hell nl50 is tough enough that calling is -ev for a decent player [/ QUOTE ] Personally, I don't see a lot of value with KTs in a six-way limped pot, even with position, but that's probably more because of the way I play (I don't get enough value out of some weaker one-pair hands). For me/my style, I think it's probably very close to 0EV, and I'd raise this up pretty much every time, something I feel is the most +EV play of the three. That being said, you're probably right that limping is slightly +EV, though I don't think it is by a wide margin.
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