Easy c/f ?

doublebluff · #1 10-20-2007, 09:14 PM

Second round at this table, no real info on people, 2nd hand i played -- first hand I called a bluff with top pair.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($934)
SB ($489.50)
BB ($590)
Hero ($587)
MP ($1022)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $35, MP calls $35, 2 folds, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($110) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $108, MP calls $108, BB folds.

Turn: ($326) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $130, MP calls $130.

River: ($586) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $584, Hero ????

chucky · #2 10-20-2007, 09:28 PM

This hand is a fold preflop. River fold is ok, but the turn bet is problematic. I would have either bet more or checked. 1/2 psb screams weakness.

Rob121 · #3 10-20-2007, 09:38 PM

spew

Flip-Flop · #4 10-20-2007, 09:54 PM

Wow...you raise UTG with that hand?
Could you please explain why?

You hit a perfect flop but it looks like vilian floped a set.
I`d fold the river yes.

OrrLives · #5 10-20-2007, 10:35 PM

Preflop is terrible unless table is really tight (you said you had no read though).

Turn 1/2 pot bet screams weakness, but will often get hands to fold.

Folding the river is fine but is very read dependent for me.

iggymcfly · #6 10-21-2007, 07:23 AM

Yeah, definitely fold preflop.

I actually like the turn bet though if the plan is to call a raise and check/fold the river if called. If someone's going to bluff you here, they'll usually do it on the turn so they don't have to worry about a river lead whereas if they actually have a boat, they're going to call to try and suck you in.

If they have a straight or something and decide not to try to push you off a split on the turn, they'll usually just check behind on the river. I guess if they bet less than all-in on the river, that might be indicative of the same hand betting for value, but usually you can make a safe c/f there. Another straight's pretty unlikely anyway with you having two blockers on the key card and no raise coming on the flop.

Elrazor · #7 10-21-2007, 07:40 AM

if you cant play great post flop, then raising this hand is absolutely terrible

as played villan could have the goods, air or something between - the only thing we do know is he dosent have is nut straight. if i had reads i might find a call here, but getting into this spot in the first place is a big leak