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Old 08-20-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default A very interesting spot-- 50nl

Ok, so Villain is 21/19/6 over a pretty substantial sample--- no run ins with him really until the current session--- he has either 4bet shoved or folded to all my 3bets until this one. I think villain took a really weird line in this hand--- I also think he would float the flop with pairs under Q's and I can't see him shoving something Like AQ here, I thought it was a pretty good spot to double barrell--- but who knows, is anyone folding as played? discuss plz

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($31.75)
CO ($109.65)
Button ($47.70)
Hero ($75.90)
BB ($48.70)
UTG ($82.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $4.50.

Flop: ($13.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, CO calls $11.

Turn: ($35.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $92.15</font>, Hero calls....?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

Dont bluff turn. Sometimes you see 66 here, but thats the only thing I can think of you beat.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

its not really a bluff--- its a wet board, I expect him to have draws here with some frequency--- I also expect him to repop flop with a set or AQ.... his line makes me think this is a really good spot to double barrell--- i mean this is not a terrible flop for us
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

You don't have a hand to protect. You can only bet here is you intend to call a shove.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

what about As Xs/ any combo draw that we now have decent equity against with one card to go?

also if I check turn--- I pretty much have to fold if he bets--- letting the weaker part of his range push me off the best hand.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

I agree, I check the turn here. Why are we betting the turn? I really dont see what he raises and calls a 4bet with pf that doesnt have us crushed.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:21 PM
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I really don't understand.. Are you leveling? Why would a combo draw flat the flop and then push on the turn with one card to go when their equity is at ground zero and you don't look like you are folding [censored]?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

i obviously would not make this move vs. most villains @nl50---- but at 21/19 his opening range is really wide--- his calling range seems like it has to be either a pair 44-1010 i would assume and also suited connectors he wants to play in position, maybe the occasional AQ/KQ
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

It is unlikely he has any draw but aks. I don't think he does that with aks. My guess is he has QQ+
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: A very interesting spot-- 50nl

Do you understand that villain understands that he has absolutely 0 folding equity the way you played this hand?
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