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Old 12-09-2006, 06:20 AM
Dane S Dane S is offline
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Default T6o blind war... overzealous?

Villain is 24/19 and seems decent enough. We have no blind war history that I can recall. Is this the right spot for something like this or is it a spew? Anyone give up on river?

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

Bad river card for you. I'd give up. Prefer a flop raise.

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Old 12-09-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

I think this is okay through the turn... the K is a good turn follow-through card for him if he's got air (and expects you could peel light), so he wont always have something call-worthy there.

The river card obv sucks for folding out any kind of made hand, I wonder if there are enough flush draws / A-hi that were preventing a free SD to warrant betting? Not sure, we'd have to enumerate villain's range which is pretty wide.

Certainly can be frustrating though, if villain has a hand like 55 or A3 and decides to get stubborn with it.

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Old 12-09-2006, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

fwiw, I have seen a lot of villains call river with A-high puttin you on a draw.
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

This looks spewy to me. I think raising the flop leverages your positional advantage best (and costs the least).

As played, river bet is kind of spewy. Nothing's changed (he's not going to ck-fold a pair)and he didn't give up on the turn, so I think he looks you up here a lot.
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Old 12-09-2006, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

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fwiw, I have seen a lot of villains call river with A-high puttin you on a draw.

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I'd be shocked if ace high folds here. If OP is trying to fold out ace high this whole plan is ridiculous. Queen high maybe folds.

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Old 12-09-2006, 08:26 PM
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Bad river card for you. I'd give up. Prefer a flop raise.

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What cards to you bet the river on? Anything that doesn't pair the board?
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Old 12-09-2006, 09:44 PM
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Bad river card for you. I'd give up. Prefer a flop raise.

-DeathDonkey

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What cards to you bet the river on? Anything that doesn't pair the board?

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I'd bet a T, 6, maybe a spade, maybe a Q?

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Old 12-09-2006, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

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fwiw, I have seen a lot of villains call river with A-high puttin you on a draw.

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I'd be shocked if ace high folds here. If OP is trying to fold out ace high this whole plan is ridiculous. Queen high maybe folds.

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I'm with DD here
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: T6o blind war... overzealous?

If you could have any hand to raise this turn with, T6 would be one of my last choices. With no history, I would choose to make this raise with a better hand. Expecting an unknown TAG to have a big enough flaw in his game that you can exploit it profitably with such a bad hand is a little, well, overzealous IMO.
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