50NL; 88 gets squeezed by a shortie pushing all-in - Page 2

humP · #11 08-20-2007, 04:29 PM

Dump, the rake would eat the minor possible +EV and this is pretty marginal, but I fold especially when button is still to act.

stickdude · #12 08-20-2007, 04:37 PM

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Yea I probably should have shoved, but I thought a smaller raise would accomplish the same thing and I didn't think it through enough I guess. Anyway...what is going on here:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($63.45)
Button ($108.05)
SB ($13.75)
BB ($80.10)
UTG ($82.45)
Hero ($54.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB raises to $13.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $28, Button raises to $108.05, Hero is hating life just like I predicted

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As played, you've shown strength with two raises and he still comes over the top. Let it go - you're a big dog to his probable range (AA/KK and very rarely AK) and you'll still get to see what he has so you can make a note for next time.

suited77 · #13 08-20-2007, 04:46 PM

I think AK is more of his range than AA/KK.
I fold though.

stickdude · #14 08-20-2007, 04:57 PM

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I think AK is more of his range than AA/KK.
I fold though.

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What would be nice is a version of pokerstove that let's you estimate how likely you think each holding is and use that to calculate equity. Something like -

KK+{95%},AK{5%}

and so on.

suited77 · #15 08-20-2007, 06:02 PM

Yeah it would be a ncie update. But for now you can just manipulate the ranges in pokerstove for like:
if he only does this with AK 25% of the time,
randomally select 1 out of every 4 possible combinations of AK.
eg. there are 16 combinations of AK. So just pick 4 randomally- AsKh, AsKd, AsKc, AhKc to represent villain doing this with any AK 4/16 or 25% of the time

stickdude · #16 08-20-2007, 06:14 PM

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Yeah it would be a ncie update. But for now you can just manipulate the ranges in pokerstove for like:
if he only does this with AK 25% of the time,
randomally select 1 out of every 4 possible combinations of AK.
eg. there are 16 combinations of AK. So just pick 4 randomally- AsKh, AsKd, AsKc, AhKc to represent villain doing this with any AK 4/16 or 25% of the time

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That's a good idea - I'll keep that in mind.

Lego05 · #17 08-26-2007, 12:44 PM

I very much doubted that he had AA/KK/QQ. It's just played ridiculously. It had to be IMO JJ/AK or some ridiculous hand. I called.

I don't have the hand history in front of me, but he had two big cards. I think it was AK but it mighta been AQ. I think the shortstack had JJ although it mighta been TT.