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Old 09-20-2007, 09:51 PM
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beyond the passion, what is jesus considered to have sacrificed for mankind?
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:57 PM
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he probably missed some sweet parties in heaven while he was down here.
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Old 09-20-2007, 10:03 PM
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Thank you for your reminder astroglide...The Passion is the central core of Christianity and what Jesus gave was completely priceless...
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:03 PM
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he probably missed some sweet parties in heaven while he was down here.

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At least he had the foot fetish covered.
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:32 AM
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beyond the passion, what is jesus considered to have sacrificed for mankind?


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He was God eternal and just to become man is beyond understanding - a very poor analogy would be a human becoming a cockroach.

Hebrews 5:8

8Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.

Philippians 2:

6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

8Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.


2 Corinthians 8:9

9For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich.
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:52 AM
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He was God eternal and just to become man is beyond understanding - a very poor analogy would be a human becoming a cockroach.

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Isn't God aware of everything already? At best it's a symbolic gesture, like drowning the whole world to kill all the women and children.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:13 AM
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beyond the passion, what is jesus considered to have sacrificed for mankind?

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As I type this there are people dying horrible deaths. They won't spend eternity as the son of god.
Time spent on earth is a nanoblink in the eternity in heaven ( as theists constantly remind us), so in the big scheme of things jesus lost a fingernail. No sweat.
To sacrifice something you have to actually give something up. Sending the kid for half an eternity in hell would have some sacrificial meaning, micro-nanoseconds on a cross is a walk in the park.

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Old 09-21-2007, 03:03 AM
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Time spent on earth is effectively non-existent in the eternity in heaven

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Sending the kid for half an eternity in hell would have some sacrificial meaning

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There are two options:

1) Finite period of sacrifice (practically non-existent meaningless period).

2) Infinite period of sacrifice

(Option three: "half" of eternity is meaningful (and understandable) to God, but we can't understand it)

The extreme majority of people who are (or claim to be) religious apparently have absolutely no grasp of finite vs infinite periods of time.

If a religious person understood "eternal," how can they possibly sin during this meaningless finite period?

Edit: Jesus sacrificed like a 5 year old eating broccoli once so they could eat ice cream forever. Luckyme, I supposed Jesus could spend one day in hell followed by one day in heaven ... in which case I could understand half an eternity of sacrifice.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:47 AM
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(Option three: "half" of eternity is meaningful (and understandable) to God, but we can't understand it)

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I can understand it. Jesus spends half his time in hell, and half in heaven. He can alternate hours, years, etc. As long as he switches back and forth ad infinitum, he can spend half an eternity in each no problem.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:24 PM
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(Option three: "half" of eternity is meaningful (and understandable) to God, but we can't understand it)

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I can understand it. Jesus spends half his time in hell, and half in heaven. He can alternate hours, years, etc. As long as he switches back and forth ad infinitum, he can spend half an eternity in each no problem.

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Right - I said this in my post edit
In general, I can't really understand "half of an eternity."
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