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Old 07-10-2007, 04:24 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default AQs on flop

Game: 1,5/3 5-max

SB and BTN are aggro maniacs, BB is aggro but not a total maniac and only has 6,5 SB in his stack, UTG is pretty tight and passive.

Hero is MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Preflop:

UTG: <font color="red"> raises to 2 SB</font>
Hero: <font color="red"> reraise to 3 SB </font>
BTN: <font color="red"> reraise to 4 SB </font> (capped)
SB: calls 4 SB
BB: calls 4 SB
UTG: calls 4 SB
Hero: calls 4 SB

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20SB)

SB: <font color="red"> bets 1 SB </font>
BB: <font color="red"> raises to 2 SB </font>
UTG: folds
Hero?

How should I proceed? I have a good hand against 3 maniacs who can have just about anything...
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: AQs on flop

3-bet for value i think then if these guys could have anything.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: AQs on flop

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3-bet for value i think then if these guys could have anything.

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Your man will be dumping his remaining stack so he can go to bed and you have a good hand HU against the other maniac.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: AQs on flop

Ok I raise BTN caps, SB calls and BB goes all in. The turn comes 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. C/R or bet?
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: AQs on flop

Gvasa I wouldnt 3-bet the flop.

Button is TAGish right?

- If he has AA or KK you may see the turn for 3 bets if you call. If you 3-bet he will cap and you will pay 4 bets to see the turn.

- If Button has AK then just calling might make him call 2 bets cold. This is not neccesarily a bad thing as you have good implied odds on an A dropping if he stays in with AK and since he barely has odds to call 2 with 3 outs.

- If Button has TT-JJ he might stay in as well if you just call. He must read the action as "two maniacs going nuts on dry board and the other TAG just calling, my JJ might be good here". Having him call 2 bets here with 2 outs would be pretty sweet.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:13 AM
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Oink

Button is an aggro maniac.

I 3-bet too.

Maybe i´m a pussy but i calldown after his cap, because BB is still in the hand.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:17 AM
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Oink

Button is an aggro maniac.

I 3-bet too.

Maybe i´m a pussy but i calldown after his cap, because BB is still in the hand.

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Sorry. I misread the reads. In that case I like jamming the flop.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: AQs on flop

jam flop, I'd put in 1 more raise on the turn vs a maniac
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:42 AM
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I think it depends on how maniacal they are. But I def want at least one more aggro action on the turn affter the flop gets capped, u have a huge hand vs this kind of players on this board.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: AQs on flop

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Ok I raise BTN caps, SB calls and BB goes all in. The turn comes 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. C/R or bet?

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id 3bet the flop as well I suppose, but I like just calling if the action was as Oink thought.

when this turn comes whether I bet, cr or ck call depends on what Ive seen button do at that table. If he doesnt take freecards Im less apt to bet, If postflop in multiway pots he gets much less maniacal but would still vb KQ QJ 2 streets if he played it this way I may just ck call down. If hes totally spew tarded to the point we are still very much ahead of his range id cr and then hate calling down a 3bet still.
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