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Old 03-26-2007, 12:32 AM
b33nz b33nz is offline
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Default overpair on heavy board with some action

no reads. the reason this isnt an auto-fold for me is because SB bet so weak, and BB could be raising a ton of draws, pairs, small overpairs to see where his hand is. does anyone like a 3bet/shutdown to $110 here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $325
BB: $807.80
UTG: $519.60
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $839.10</font>
CO: $437.70
BTN: $392

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $12, BB calls $10

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($42, 3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $16</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $44</font>, Hero
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

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does anyone like a 3bet/shutdown to $110 here?

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I don't, call it or fold.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:40 AM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

I actually dont mind 3 bet to 110 because bb and you are fairly deep so its pretty easy to get away from a push. If he calls I'd have to reevaluate on the turn.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

Fold, you might be good but there's way too much reverse implieds at work here.

You get bluffed/outdrawn a lot (SB could push a draw after you overcall).
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

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Fold, you might be good but there's way too much reverse implieds at work here.

You get bluffed/outdrawn a lot (SB could push a draw after you overcall).

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Agreed. You're not going to make it to showdown here.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

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Fold, you might be good but there's way too much reverse implieds at work here.

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not if im 3betting and shutting down to anymore heat.

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You get bluffed/outdrawn a lot (SB could push a draw after you overcall).

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its totally possible he folds a FD/SD here seeing as there is very heavy action and he has to think he has 0 FE.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

ugh, i'd just fold. a lot of things are going to have to go right for you to win this pot.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

essentially im turning my hand into a bluff except for the times one of them calls with a draw and we check it down when he misses and my pair is good. i still dont hate the idea of 3betting here since its also good for metagame reasons.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

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its totally possible he folds a FD/SD here seeing as there is very heavy action and he has to think he has 0 FE.

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Error, donks don't think.
There's a thing i agree on, it's that the only way to continue in this hand is 3betting.

But unless you know very well how they'll play/react, i wouldn't think about continuing here. You'll end up trying to be a hero often, and often incorrectly, just TOO tricky imho. But maybe you're just a superhero what do i know.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: overpair on heavy board with some action

Fold. Either a set or a draw from one of these guys, or random 2 pair. The rest of the hand will be a headache to play.
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