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Old 11-03-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: The government/market distinction depends on a cultural artifact.

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Our problem is this: the good people have to find a way to violently coerce the bad people into being less violent.

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Self-defense != violent coercion.

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Well, it is, sort of, in a trivial sense. But this isn't a useful way to use the word since he's conflating initated violence with reactive violence. And there's a good possibility he's conflating these on purpose, since he's been around this forum enough to know better.

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See what I mean? His response:

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That's just semantics, right?

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He's pulling the bait and switch. This thread is over before it begun.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: The government/market distinction depends on a cultural artifact.

I just don't see how AC proposes to handle bad people without "democratizing" the practice of violence.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:48 AM
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I don't know what would happen if we removed non-violence norms from the general population. It just seems an enormous risk.

Like a really, really enormous risk.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:54 AM
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Without this cultural norm for non-violence in the private sector, society would be pure AC.


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Close, but it's the other way around. Without the cultural norm for accepting violence from government agents that you wouldn't accept from normal people you'd have AC.

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Yes! So if free market agents stopped voluntarily refraining from violent resistance, there would no longer be a distinction between "government" and "free market."

Exactly.
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