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Old 08-13-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

Villain is a 17/13/3 reg. I'm pretty sure he'd 3-bet pf w/ JJ+ so in the heat of the action it seemed like an easy fold, but now I'm not so sure anymore. Thoughts on how to continue in this spot? Call and c/f turn? B/f turn?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $38.00
BB: $132.15
UTG: $101.00
Hero (MP): $208.30
CO: $349.80
BTN: $220.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($24) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, CO calls $16.00, <font color="red">BTN raises to $50.00</font>, 2 folds
Uncalled bet of $34.00 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $72.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

To add; I had been fairly active at the table.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:29 PM
Suwalski Suwalski is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

The raise is pretty small, and no really draws out there. Folding is pretty weak, i think i call his flopraise and c/f a large bet on turn.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

i really dont think folding is weak here.. his range is probably alot of pairs, and he'll prob squeze 1010 and jj.. i really think its insane to do anything but fold unless hes capapble of making big moves in he knows u know sitations
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

What is CO like?
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

you think he is doing this with one pair? unlikely, i think this is a set a lot
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:25 PM
GTBMuckface GTBMuckface is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

board is reallllllly dry.
i think OP has the right idea, folding isnt weak here imo.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

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Just checked my notes on him: weak tight. Makes it an even easier fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

if the CO is clearly weak tight, btn may know this and might be "sandwiching" you against the guy, since you cant stand the action with a player still left to say.

btw, a 16$ bet on this flop seems a little weak from villain's eyes. maybe he is raising any pocket or a 9 for protection against a likely AK.

besides that, i dont think call and c/f turn is an option since is very likely that he will bet any turn again against one player, so if we´re going to fold, just fold the flop.

actually, if we call, and CO folds im getting in on the turn.

if we call and co calls, then maybe btn will check behind a hand we beat and bet a hand that have us beat, so its a ackward spot anyway since we are either giving a free card or folding to turn aggression.

im new to cash games, so maybe im just levelling myself.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:49 PM
SirFelixCat SirFelixCat is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - KK, weak fold on flop OOP?

While I don't think this is weak, I do think that btw very well could be making a move here too. He knows that this more than likely has missed your range and he knows that when CO just calls, he's in a prime spot to squeeze here.

Not saying he is, but just saying some villains are capable of this....
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