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Old 08-07-2007, 04:04 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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15/30 game thats playing 7 handed

UTG raises, he is a aggro and spastic, but not completely retarded. I get the sense he could prolly play really well if he wanted to, he just doesnt care that much about money and likes making aggresive plays. I definitely dont think hes a winner, but hes prolly not that big a loser. I 3 bet JJ and its folded around to the SB who calls, he is also aggressive. I havent seen a lot of his play, but hes done some stuff that could be called questionable, but i cant tell yet if it's because hes really really good, or slightly bad. BB folds

10sb and the flop is QT4hhx (I have no heart), UTG bets (he could have any pair, any draw even as weak as like 98 or even Ax), I raise, SB 3 bets, UTG folds

whats my plan?
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: What do I do here?

it's only slightly important, but did you have a Jh ? I'm calling and evaluating the turn. Obviously J's, 9's,4's and Q's all have some potential in helping you carry on past the turn. And you can maybe discount backdoor hearts as being useful.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:17 PM
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sorry disregard the "4's", that doesn't counterfeit anything.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:25 PM
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it's only slightly important, but did you have a Jh ? I'm calling and evaluating the turn. Obviously J's, 9's,4's and Q's all have some potential in helping you carry on past the turn. And you can maybe discount backdoor hearts as being useful.

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oops, sorry, no I dont have the heart

say the turn completely blanks, what then? What if the turn is a non broadway heart? Or the turn is non heart K but then river blanks and he bets?
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: What do I do here?

call and fold the turn if you don't pick up a straight draw. he has AQ or TT just about every time imo.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: What do I do here?

pretty good spot to call and fold turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:14 PM
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pretty good spot to call and fold turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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thats what I did, but I felt so empty inside afterwards and wondered if anyone would play it different.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:14 PM
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pretty good spot to call and fold turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 08-08-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: What do I do here?

With both flush and straighdraw on flop and a 3bettor who "done some stuff that could be called questionable" I would like to call down unless turn or river destroys it. But it seems that noone agrees with that.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:12 AM
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With both flush and straighdraw on flop and a 3bettor who "done some stuff that could be called questionable" I would like to call down unless turn or river destroys it. But it seems that noone agrees with that.

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My thoughts exactly... I agree with you.

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