Beat: Pocket Fives Home Page Articles (poker articles in general)

[buckslayer80]

Fox has a lot of different names on different sites. I'm a member is his site bc I joined for only $50 for the whole year. Mos tof his money comes from ring games.

His videos are pretty good but he only posts like one a month and he wants $130 for a year membership now!! I won't be renewing bc of the lack of updates. I like his site bc he has a decent amount of HORSE and Omaha vids which are my favorite.

[nuclear500]

Don't shoot me, but its akin to asking whether you would want Howard Lederer or Phil Ivey for a coach.

Both have shown success, but Ivey far more then Lederer, but I would much prefer to have Howard as teacher then Ivey.

I'm sure Ivey can 'teach' but he does not come across as a guy who would have the patience to teach.

I could be wrong.

[chrisg820]

You can't compare having Lederer teach you over Ivey to lets say Fox teach you over any well respected online winner (even if Fox might have more "patience"). My reason being that even though Ivey has more success then Lederer, both have had a great deal of success overall. Whereas, I have not seen proof that Fox has any kind of success.

[ghidorah]

Fox plays cash games for the most part, If you want proof of his ability, then why don’t you just play with him? Plays mainly under the names Mr.Fox, Mr_Fox, fedge, and VulpesVulpes.

[Mr.Fox]

I thought I had posted a long reply, but apparently it didn't work. The gist of it was -

1. Your sample sizes are ridiculously small when you look up my stats on a few places. The largest sample size, my sharkscope on Stars, has me as a winner.

2. I play cash games, and my reputation is as a fixed-limit specialist, though members of my site will tell you that my no-limit and SNG videos are also very good, and I have made a significant portion of my living at the no-limit tables.

3. I think questioning "name pros" is a good thing, many of them are not nearly as good as people believe. I know that there are players who have big names on 2p2 and/or are ranked on P5's who are not even winning players. I would however question respectfully, and refrain from attacking. Attacking just makes you look a petty jerk, especially when it turns out the guy whose tournament record you are attacking is in fact a cash game player.

As far as wondering how I make a living, my night last night was a $33 Rebuy on Full Tilt where I just missed the money, a satellite to the $400k today which I won a seat in, and a $50/$100 fixed-limit Omaha 8 table where I made around $4,500 dollars.

Not a bad night overall, though I think I could have been a little more patient in the rebuy, instead of coming over the top of a guy preflop who couldn't get away from AJ for all his chips.

Here are the first and last hands from my Omaha session, since I'm guessing a guy like the OP wants proof.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2259772308: Table Link (heads up) - $50/$100 - Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 20:38:07 ET - 2007/04/21
noparty has 5 seconds left to act
noparty posts the small blind of $25
VulpesVulpes posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to VulpesVulpes [9c 6d 7h 6s]
noparty calls $25
VulpesVulpes checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Ad 5h]
VulpesVulpes bets $50
noparty folds
Uncalled bet of $50 returned to VulpesVulpes
VulpesVulpes mucks
VulpesVulpes wins the pot ($99.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7c Ad 5h]
Seat 1: noparty (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: VulpesVulpes (big blind) collected ($99.50), mucked

Full Tilt Poker Game #2260142728: Table Link (heads up) - $50/$100 - Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 21:32:29 ET - 2007/04/21
Seat 1: noparty ($1,107)
Seat 2: VulpesVulpes ($9,099)
VulpesVulpes posts the small blind of $25
noparty posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to VulpesVulpes [Jh Kh 6c 4c]
VulpesVulpes raises to $100
noparty calls $50
*** FLOP *** [Jd Jc 9d]
noparty checks
VulpesVulpes: Tourneys on break, back in 5 minutes
VulpesVulpes bets $50
noparty raises to $100
VulpesVulpes calls $50
*** TURN *** [Jd Jc 9d] [9c]
noparty bets $100
VulpesVulpes calls $100
*** RIVER *** [Jd Jc 9d 9c] [Js]
noparty checks
VulpesVulpes bets $100
noparty: that is gross
noparty calls $100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
VulpesVulpes shows [Jh Kh 6c 4c] (four of a kind, Jacks)
noparty mucks
VulpesVulpes wins the pot ($799.50) with four of a kind, Jacks
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jd Jc 9d 9c Js]
Seat 1: noparty (big blind) mucked [8s Qd 9s 7d] - HI: three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: VulpesVulpes (small blind) showed [Jh Kh 6c 4c] and won ($799.50) with HI: four of a kind, Jacks

I understand that you have seen no proof that I have had success, but why you would attack me and seem to express the belief that I am a charlatan rather than looking a little deeper, I do not know. I'm not hiding anywhere, it's easy to find me and find out about me by asking about me on forums where people know who I am.

And Ghidora is right, if you really want to prove that I am no good at what I do feel free to find me, the screen names he listed are correct. I play a lot of places, but 30/60 Hold Em on Bodog is the most likely place to find me.

As for your association with Cardrunners, I have always found Taylor Caby to be respectable and respectful. I don't know him well but he has always appeared to be a man of class to me, something you could learn from. There is more than enough business out there for us training sites to share and get along, and I have only felt a similar attitude from the other training sites I have been in contact with.

You don't represent the Cardrunners folks, nor can I imagine they would ever want you to represent them. I'm glad you are learning things there, they have some fine players and teachers working for them, but disparaging me and my site does nothing but get us mentioned on a forum where neither I nor my business partner ever post. Thanks for the press.

[ike]

[ QUOTE ]
If I one or two tabled 100 dollar SNG's I could easily maintain a 25% ROI.

[/ QUOTE ]

i'd make a large enough prop bet for it to be worth your time to try to prove this.

[Mr.Fox]

I would take that prop bet as well. I think it could have been done a few years ago, but 25% at the $100 level and higher is VERY tough now on a site where they are running frequently.

[chrisg820]

I thought Mr. Fox def could have been a cash game player, just from him posting articles on P5, and from the very little info on his site, I thought he was a tourny player. I was only questoning his tourny play (which might indeed be good). Im sure hes a good player, just I would still prefer to see articles on P5 by bigger name players (even if infact they obv don't win as much as it appears).
By this I mean, id much rather prefer an article by Taylor than you (nothing against you personally, just my own opinion and Im sure most ppl would prefer this too)

Again, ty for all the poster's insights [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[chrisg820]

Also, Mr. Fox, it wasn't easy to find much info on you...obv compared bigger name players with big results (even if they don't make as much money as what it seems)

The only reson I was attacking you was because I feel like there are better coaching sites and articles out there. I do give you props as you have done much more than me (and most ppl) in the poker community.

[chrisg820]

also, Mr. Fox is deep in the FTP 400k, hope he takes it down [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]