$16 Stars: A few interesting hands from tonight

[BeattysLuck]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP1 (t1745)
MP2 (t1200)
CO (t905)
Button (t2740)
SB (t3290)
Hero (t1115)
UTG (t2505)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t150, CO calls t150, 1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t600) , , (4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t600) (4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: (t600) (4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets t300</font>, SB folds, Hero calls t300, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t1200
Akward spot for me. Any suggestions?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB (t4880)
Hero (t2750)
Button (t630)
SB (t5240)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero ???
SB and BB are unknowns and I havent noticed any understanding of ICM from them, but its still alright to lay this down right? If not what line should I take?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 (t1380)
Hero (t1430)
Button (t1375)
SB (t1505)
BB (t2640)
UTG (t3745)
MP1 (t1425)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
2 folds</font>, MP2 raises to t150</font>, Hero calls t150,1 fold</font>, SB calls t125, 1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t500) A, J, 9 (3 players)</font>
SB bets t500</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ???
I usually raise AK here pf but the initial raise was coming from a player who is usually tight early on. Anyone else not mind going broke here?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP2 (t1580)
CO (t1470)
Hero (t1460)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1440)
UTG+1 (t3070)
MP1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, [1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold</font>, Hero raises to t100</font>, 2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t80, MP2 folds.

Flop: (t250) , , (2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t220</font>, UTG+1 calls t220.

Turn: (t690) [colo(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 bets t2750 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???
I wouldnt have minded checking this one down. I wasnt sure of what to think about his all in. What should I do here?

[vers]

hand 1 looks fine, but our hand is more than a bluff catcher than anything else.

2 - I would be folding with such a small btn and not a great hand.

3 - I am going broke on the flop.

4 - I would think flushes go for crai here, I would call b/c his line looks so bizarre.

[DMACM]

hand one i think u can fold since ur stack will
be crippled if u lose. additionally ur really only playing for a split so pot odds arent what they appear.
tough spot.

hand two id fold maybe limp if they are real passive

hand three
sux to see the jack but I call here. Might be a mistake since thats a big bet for a cbet and we are really only beating AQ. Ya i go broke here

hand four
easy fold

[sippin_criss]

1) i play same
2) i prob fold, esp if btn is tight, if hes looser i probably limp
3) flop is just standaaaaaard shove
4) if hes shoving a flush or a set then good for him, load another one gg/gn.

[HajiShirazu]

I would fold hand 1, I can't see somebody betting into that many players and 1 left to act without a straight. There are four sevens and three deuces, sevens are more likely and you only get half against a deuce anyway.
I would fold or maybe limp hand two. Actually I think I would limp, it would really suck if button decided to shove and I wasn't there with the likely best hand to knock him out. Against good players you should fold.
Hand 3 go broke.
Hand 4 I fold but it's close, more worried about two pair/set than flush, would call with Kh.

[eurythmech]

1) You can fold vs a solid player, otherwise call.
2) I fold this
3) Go broke
4) Fold

[Kevin8423]

Hand 1 I guess call, its not a great spot but I think they would bet worse than a straight here enough to make it good.

Hand 2 is definitley a fold and IMO limping is horrible. I don't want to get my stack in here even if I see a flop and hit Axx or Txx, the other stack is just too short. If he was on the blinds and the other stacks were folding to him because they are stupid or in an attempt to preserve the bubble then you could make an argument for limping.

Hand 3 I'm shoving. Theres hardly anyone who I am folding to here, though I would against the regs I consider to be at the top since that line wouldn't make sense with a worse hand.

Hand 4 I call, its pretty gross since they usually have atleast a draw if not a combo draw or better but shoving doesn't really make sense for many made hands here.

[sharkbitten]

I know with hand 2, you can pretty much coast into the money, but would pushing it in be all that bad?
The button will probably call, but do you think the blinds will?

My first thought was push or fold, no limping, and leaning toward a shove.
Thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[PepsPersson]

Without any ICM calculators at hand, I think we need a pretty darn good hand to push in hand 2. Like AK, TT+? I remember calculating one of these hands a few days ago and it turned out to be a push with AJo but... button had more chips then (like 400) and also hero did have a few more which increase our FE some I think. Therefor my reasoning is ATo is to weak here.

[BeattysLuck]

I didnt really even consider pushing here, personally i think its pretty bad to do so in this position, but it didnt seem as if the two big stacks understood basic ICM concepts. I was thinking maybe a min raise would get the job done but is it worth the worry? What if the small stack was at say 1200, what then?