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Old 11-27-2007, 09:57 AM
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Default 10-20 vs argoe

HH is from memory...Just want to check my line to make sure I did in fact botch every betting round

KQs $2k effective stacks. villain is redargoe, 4 handed

villain raised to 80, i call on button, blinds fold

flop Q46r, V bets 120, I raise small to 300 he calls
turn 2, check, check
river 8 no flushes, check, I bet $350 trying to squeeze out value, villain shoves...about $1300 back to me which is pot now.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

im folding he has KK
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:27 AM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

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im folding he has KK

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lol he doesnt have KK but knowing red he probably has something that has u beat. i like re raising preflop as well, but either is fine rkly
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

U dont 3 bet this in position?
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

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U dont 3 bet this in position?

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I do a decent amount of the time...Like I said I botched every round of betting.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

good line by him

sadly i think were face up so...this is pretty player dependent
i know u said u botched it but, bet if i can raise the flop for value im prolly betting all the following streets for value too

anyway, guess a default is a fold here but he must know you have almost exactly KQ
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

i prefer just calling the flop
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

not 3-betting is fine

i dont like your river bet. His range for calling your flop raise is prob mostly better queens, sets, overpairs, maaybe 57.

I dont think your river bet will get value from any hand in that range you beat and it may convince him to turn lots of hands with showdown value (JJ, TT) into bluffs. I think a bigger bet has a better chance of being called by one of those hands.

I think i would rather bet the turn than the river. I dont think redargoe is a great dude to bet/call this river with
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

Why can't this be a bluff? we check behind on turn which is either air that took a stab on the flop, or a mediocre hand that doesn't want to face a raise on the turn

therefore he knows the river bet is a slim value bet, you checked the turn to snap call any river bluff, so a river cr is his best move
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 vs argoe

he has 44....fold
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