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Old 11-27-2007, 06:05 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

SB is the reason for the season, so I imagine tsarrast is easing off on his squeezing range to allow him to join in our fun. River I feel like he's just not valueraising many worse hands, and it seems like a pretty bad spot to bluffraise me, so, I let it go. Agree/disagree? would you play other streets differently? What of the river bet size? (I had various ideas for the turn play, but figured i'd check out his bet size and go from there)

Full Tilt Poker $25.00/$50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

SamH133 (BB): $8644.00
Urindanger (UTG): $13397.50
PeachyK33N (MP): $5127.00
Hero (CO): $5000.00
tsarrast (BTN): $6146.00
Big fish (SB): $4464.50

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold, <font color="#FF0000">PeachyK33N raises to $155</font>, Hero calls $155, tsarrast calls $155, 2 folds

Flop: ($540.00) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
PeachyK33N checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $395</font>, tsarrast calls $395, PeachyK33N folds

Turn: ($1330.00) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, tsarrast checks

River: ($1330.00) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $1100</font>, <font color="#FF0000">tsarrast raises to $3700</font>, Hero folds
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:20 AM
DLizzle DLizzle is offline
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

i'd prob bet 950 on the turn, you can fold out lots of stuff that beats you, and probably dump your hand safely if he raises. i don't mind the check though.

river is a good fold i think, i don't him trying to bluff you here very much, the big question is does he value raise worse enough to call here, but i wouldn't think so, though i've never played with him
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

yeah, i would bet the turn.

I wanna agree with dlizzle on betting less, but i probably end up calling this raise 20-30% of the time where your line stands to get more value when called and makes it easier to FOLD to a raise.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

fold seems good from what ive seen of him
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:19 AM
Dale Dough Dale Dough is offline
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

You play a flopped set the same way till the river right? His line is strong so it makes sense to lay this down, but where does it end? K high? A high? 33? From what I know he's good, so why can't this ever be a bluff? There has to be a point where you must call purely for game-theoretic reasons. We're still putting in less than 100BB total, so I'm inclined to say a Q high flush is in that range.

There, my rationalization for being a station.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

snap fold.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

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snap fold.

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is nut flush a snap fold as well? what about 3's full?
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:33 AM
havewemetbefore havewemetbefore is offline
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

I fold this here i think boat as hit alot of the time
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

I fold now, rest looks purrty standard


what am I talking about bet the turn
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:25 AM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: maybe standard laydown with a flush, 25/50

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I fold now, rest looks purrty standard


what am I talking about bet the turn

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