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Old 11-18-2007, 10:39 PM
EvilSteve EvilSteve is offline
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Default $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

Stars $11 tourney started with 3000 in chips and slightly over 3000 players, we're down to 930 players remaining. Tried to use the hand history converter from the FAQ but the link didn't work. So...

Seat 1: La_Rasta (7025 in chips)
Seat 2: cavscoutdad (3490 in chips)
Seat 3: BoooM84 (8740 in chips)
Seat 4: mikeefu (16165 in chips)
Seat 5: squid300 (14490 in chips)
Seat 7: mm racer (15590 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (3135 in chips)
Seat 9: kalamitsis (7190 in chips)
La_Rasta: posts the ante 25
cavscoutdad: posts the ante 25
BoooM84: posts the ante 25
mikeefu: posts the ante 25
squid300: posts the ante 25
mm racer: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts the ante 25
kalamitsis: posts the ante 25
La_Rasta: posts small blind 200
cavscoutdad: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Qs]
BoooM84: folds
mikeefu: raises 400 to 800
squid300: folds
mm racer: folds
Hero: raises 2310 to 3110 and is all-in

My M is about 4, but mikeefu has been playing very tight and that minraise looks suspicious, haven't seen him do that before. AQs felt very borderline in this situation to me. Push or fold?
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

so you're saying when he opens it hasnt been for a minraise ever? or he hasnt been opening so its suspicious no matter what.

either way its pretty close. i would probably shove without thinking
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

Start using a converter people, it's really getting annoying:

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

I shove everytime here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

Shove looks fine here with your stack size
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:53 AM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

Make a note on the player. Some minraise with SC/Gappers from EP wanting to look scary so they can see a flop. Others minraise to shove over a RR...without a read AQs is more than enough to shove with <10 BB.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

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so you're saying when he opens it hasnt been for a minraise ever? or he hasnt been opening so its suspicious no matter what.

either way its pretty close. i would probably shove without thinking

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I guess what I'm saying is I generally find a minraise to be suspicious unless its against a habitual minraiser, and I hadn't seen that pattern from this guy. But also he hadn't been opening many pots period, and none that I can recall from such early position, so its possible that his default raise from there is a minraise. Regardless he was tight enough that him entering the pot at all was scary, and for me the minraise makes it a bit scarier (but like another poster said, it could be a way to see a cheap flop with something speculative, playing on the fear a minraise might produce, as it does for me). Result: he called my push with AKo and I was eliminated. Normally that push is automatic but because of my read I was close to folding, which based on the responses I got sounds about right.

I'll use that converter next time.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: $11 Stars MTT, AQs push/fold decision

shove
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