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Old 10-01-2007, 02:53 AM
mdm13 mdm13 is offline
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Default 3 50NL Hands, Line Checks

Hand 1

Villain is a 52/1.5/.5. He has smooth called with aces PF previously FWIW.

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BB ($141.60)
Hero ($50.80)
MP ($50)
CO ($31.20)
Button ($50)
SB ($54.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, CO calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8.5</font>, Hero calls $6.25, CO folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($20.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($20.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $12.8</font>, Hero ?

Hand 2

Villain is a 29/19/2 donk. Never sure what do do in these situations.

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SB ($52.15)
BB ($36.10)
Hero ($50.40)
MP ($53.75)
CO ($48.50)
Button ($70.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero ?

Folding seems weak and raising could create a bloated pot without a hand so I'm leaning towards the fold although I have like an impulse to raise donkbets from donks with almost ATC.

Hand 3

Same villain as number 2.

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UTG ($59.80)
MP ($27.95)
Hero ($50)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($64.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.25</font>, MP calls $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($7.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($17.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10</font>, Hero?

Probably should have folded PF, but as played never know what do in these spots, he makes weakish bet that I'm tempted to push over, but he could have be drawing dead by now, so raising should have been done on the flop if ever prob.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:26 AM
Sdrive Sdrive is offline
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Default Re: 3 50NL Hands, Line Checks

hand1
i would smoothcall

hand2: fold

hand3: fold or raise to around 24
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:54 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 3 50NL Hands, Line Checks

Hand 1: I think he flopped a set. I call out of spite and hope I have enough implied odds on my OESD (I'm thinking probably I do).

Hand 2: I haven't seen Villain play, but 29/19/2 stats are not especially donkish.

I probably just fold to the donkbet.

Hand 3: Representing turned trips when the board pairs is such a popular thing to do that it makes me feel really FOS when I try to do it. The board is super-drawish too, and I don't know that that's going to help your credibility any.

Er, I don't know what's best, really. I probably just fold.

If Villain is a frequent two-barreler, though, then that does improve the case for a raise (since in that case he'll often be holding two cards that missed the board).

Earlier, on the flop, raising seems like an option. Probably it's mostly an option that will mix up your play a bit and increase your variance.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:05 AM
brandysbich brandysbich is offline
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Default Re: 3 50NL Hands, Line Checks

Hand 1 is a crappy spot to be in with JJ but when someone with almost no PFR 3betting into so many players you basically calling for set value. On the flop I just let it go...even if you make your hand it will likely kill your action. Sounds stupid but sometimes I just let go of JJ preflop here if i'm not getting odds to call for set value which is border line for you here.

Hand 2 I raise this donk bet a lot of the time and double barrel any picture on the turn or just check it down after I raise this flop and take a free card. Folding is fine too i guess

Hand 3 I never try and bluff people off their over pair here when they have more than 1/3 their stack invested....donks get attached to their hands and dont like folding overpairs
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Sdrive Sdrive is offline
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Default Re: 3 50NL Hands, Line Checks

in hand two.. villian bets $2 into a $4 pot.. what would be the correct bet size to not be a donkbet?

i'm saying this because i guess i donkbet a lot.
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