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Old 08-20-2007, 07:21 AM
levAA levAA is offline
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Default flopped set - turnbet size?

3rd hand in the tournament 4/180

as it is a multiway pot i opend with a potsize bet on the flop, hoping for an overpair or a flush-draw to hop on.

on the turn we have a pot of nearly our remaining stacks. i thought of villain having a diamond draw with maybe 2 overcards to the board, so i assumed if he doesn't hit his flush on the turn he won't bring anymore chips into the pot.

wrong assumption?

better to make it half-size and commit him to the pot but risking to be drawn out?

what do you think makes our expectation better?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1480)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1420)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1650)
MP2 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, MP3 calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t60</font>, Button calls t60, SB calls t50, Hero calls t40, MP2 calls t40, MP3 calls t40.

Flop: (t360) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t300, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: (t960) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1140 (All-In)</font>
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:47 AM
Tackleberry Tackleberry is offline
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Default Re: flopped set - turnbet size?

On the turn you should be pot-committed in your mind anyway, so the only question is - which is the line to extract the maximum from your opponent? The question of protection should step behind.

In a standard 4/180 I expect Villain to have anything like 88-QQ here, maybe AK/AQ in diamond. AA/KK surely would have raised the flop. The only threat for you is AK/AQ in [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], which I would discount for the decision-finding.

The question should be now - is your opp. aggressive enough to bet an overpair if you check to him? If so I would have checked the turn to induce a bet (maybe even a shove) which commits himself to the pot anyway. If your opponent is more passive, gladly checking behind I would have made it 1/2 pot-size and shoved the river.
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