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Old 08-17-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default not nut flush - bet river?

passive table, lots of limping rounds.

utg is loose/passive

raise the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t1450)
BB (t765)
UTG (t1400)
UTG+1 (t850)
Hero (t1820)
MP2 (t1415)
MP3 (t1135)
CO (t1365)
Button (t3630)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t300) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t50</font>, Hero calls t50, CO folds, SB calls t50, BB folds, UTG calls t50.

Turn: (t500) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t500) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100....

Final Pot: t800
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

Normally I'd just say call, but w/ the A and K of diamonds out I'm leaning towards a raise.

What's the buyin?
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

it was the 4/180
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

It's probably thin, but I think you're often ahead and get called by enough Ax/whatever hands to make this a raise.

btw, you should leave out the action after your river call as they could lead to biased responses.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

I raise this for value (to 300 or 400) since the A and K are out....otherwise I call.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

raise to 400 for value
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

I definitely raise for value here. But in similar spots it can be possible that calling is the best play partly because you get value in people overcalling hands they'd have folded to your raise.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

I guess I will post one for the wimps out there. Just CALL. You may be good but there are 2 people behind and the checked turn just screams missed draw. I don't think of myself as passive but this looks like a place to be prudent. You might even make more money if you are good because of the action behind. What happened?
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: not nut flush - bet river?

A better hand NEVER bets 1/5th pot on the river, so you can definitely comfortably raise to like 500/600 or so.
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