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Old 06-30-2007, 04:08 PM
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people who are saying 'play for the win' and wtvr are incorrect. its all about ICM, not about 'playing for the win' . this is probably a shove, but I wouldn't be THAT surprised if some better posters said to fold this

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Let's say villian calls 20%. We win T450 80 times out of 100. We win whatever (T1900ish) and take the chip lead 17 times and we lose 3 times. With a 65:35 payout it seems like it would be worth it to "play for the win" here.

Of course online is rigged so this is one of the 3 times hero is going to lose and he'll never be in this situation n more times to let variance catch up.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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What is the payout? 60/40 (I'll just assume it is)?

If the big stack is good, your fold equity is 43.8%. Winning is worth 51.9% so you need to win 84.4% of the time if he calls with ATC. Of course he will almost never call so the point is moot.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:21 PM
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Folding here would be terrible. There is never really going to be a situation where open folding AA is correct. It is going to be very rarely correct to fold AA to a shove, let alone when you have the option to shove it in first.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:51 PM
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I'm confused.. is this a satellite or what?
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:53 PM
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If there's any difference between first and second then of course u play this. The third player is pointless really.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:58 PM
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This is the stupidest question I have ever seen.

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you must really suck.

OP,

this is a shove, not an unreasonable question. these chips are too valuable and you have shoving impetus.
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:04 PM
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today for lunch i had nothing! i actually slept through lunch.
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:08 PM
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This is the stupidest question I have ever seen.

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you must really suck.

OP,

this is a shove, not an unreasonable question. these chips are too valuable and you have shoving impetus.

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lawl impetus
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:26 PM
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today for lunch i had nothing! i actually slept through lunch.

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I'm considering Arbys, but I dunno. I've been disappointed the last few times. I'm looking for something new. Suggestions?
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:41 PM
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today for lunch i had nothing! i actually slept through lunch.

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I'm considering Arbys, but I dunno. I've been disappointed the last few times. I'm looking for something new. Suggestions?

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