how to play this river?

[gh171104]

just sat down and have only about 5 hands on villian, is this a c/c or a b/f? i probably shouldve stabbed at the flop...



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Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: (1.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button folds.

River: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

[mmctrab]

It's a relatively small pot, so I think I'd bet/fold, which I like a little better than check/call.

[Aaron W.]

I would bet-call. It's an excellent bluffing board for missed draws.

[Harv72b]

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I would bet-call. It's an excellent bluffing board for missed draws.

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And ace high.

[whoshotfirst]

I actually don't think we should bet this flop.
Aaron, if we plan to call a raise expecting to beat a bluff on the river, why do we bet? Would it be really that bad if the river got checked trough? I've been thinking about this b/c river thing a bit lately and I don't understand it. It seems like b/c on the river when the board gets scary is maximizing the price we have to pay, while minimizing the chance of a bluff. This (I mean what I'm writing about) obviously is not a well worked out idea or concept, but it's really bugging me.

[Shillx]

I'd check/call the river

[MPB]

I think bet/call is fine. If your opponent wants to call down with a high cause he belives your bluffing we should let him.
if he's not a total retard he hardly has hit anything on the flop and why should we give him any credit for having a 4?

[Marquis]

I'd fold preflop.

[Zeldark]

Mix Aaron's and Marquis opinions together for the equivilency of my commentary for the hand.

[Aaron W.]

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Aaron, if we plan to call a raise expecting to beat a bluff on the river, why do we bet?

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I bet the river for value expecting to get called by ace-high, 5x, and medium pocket pairs that played like a wimp. I'm not betting because I expect to get raised.

However, since it did get raised, I call a raise because it's a beautiful bluffing board.

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Would it be really that bad if the river got checked trough? I've been thinking about this b/c river thing a bit lately and I don't understand it. It seems like b/c on the river when the board gets scary is maximizing the price we have to pay, while minimizing the chance of a bluff. This (I mean what I'm writing about) obviously is not a well worked out idea or concept, but it's really bugging me.

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It's bad to get checked through if villain would have called a bet. But if villain was likely to fold to your bet, you're better off checking.

Reads matter. It's a small pot, so reads matter even more (because the difference in values between the plays is generally larger).