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#21
05-27-2006, 07:57 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
I would have raised preflop, this makes a fold on the turn even more correct because the better is betting into a preflop raiser also 2 opponents are yet to act, of course if you had raised there may be only one person behind you or you might have even bought the button, if you did get the button a call would be in order if no one raises in front of you, w/ only one person yet to act a fold still seens OK to me.
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#22
05-27-2006, 08:50 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
as long as your preflop raise didnt make the pot alot bigger by getting a few out. otherwise it doesnt make him less likely to have you beat he figures to be betting a weaker hand as the pot is bigger. overall i guess you need to decide if he would be leading out here and can have say a hand like ace with a club. if he could your fold is a disaster.
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#23
05-27-2006, 11:38 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
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tough spot. the pot has lots of bets there and most times you will lose but it is far from an auto matic fold. close call but i call and take a card off and see what happens. lots of problems with this post. as most of the posters know haakee and are well aware that he rarely will buy the rounds of drinks. so diablo has to kiss his buttt so he may get a round next time. so we must throw out his voice. the sucker is probably so pissed from haakee never buying that he cant think straight although i agree with him on this one. fianchetto knows how tight haakee is and would love to rob him and buy the drinks with the money. i am totally impartial as when we go out i just make diablo pay for everything and that solves all the issues. next time fianchetto comes and gets drunk and pays [/ QUOTE ] There is always so much hidden meaning in the responses where the parties are known. Thanks for setting it all straight.
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#24
05-28-2006, 01:24 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
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you need to decide if he would be leading out here and can have say a hand like ace with a club. if he could your fold is a disaster. [/ QUOTE ] This was my thinking in my earlier post, and I think that F. is very capable of doing just this.
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#25
05-28-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
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tough spot. the pot has lots of bets there and most times you will lose but it is far from an auto matic fold. close call but i call and take a card off and see what happens. lots of problems with this post. as most of the posters know haakee and are well aware that he rarely will buy the rounds of drinks. so diablo has to kiss his buttt so he may get a round next time. so we must throw out his voice. the sucker is probably so pissed from haakee never buying that he cant think straight although i agree with him on this one. fianchetto knows how tight haakee is and would love to rob him and buy the drinks with the money. i am totally impartial as when we go out i just make diablo pay for everything and that solves all the issues. next time fianchetto comes and gets drunk and pays [/ QUOTE ] You're on, Ray. I think alcohol sounds like a better use of my fish money anyway rather than sitting in a game with the likes of you, haakee, and the sucker.
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#26
05-28-2006, 01:56 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
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[ QUOTE ] you need to decide if he would be leading out here and can have say a hand like ace with a club. if he could your fold is a disaster. [/ QUOTE ] This was my thinking in my earlier post, and I think that F. is very capable of doing just this. [/ QUOTE ] thanks guys. Barron
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#27
05-28-2006, 03:12 PM
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Re: Modeling my skirt for Fianchetto
The pre-flop overlimp can easily be a fold since a solid player limps UTG and there are still a few to act behind you. It's close, ATo I think a fold is clear.
The turn play is good. You will occasionally throw away the best hand, but definitely not enough to pay for the times you are not best and have to pay more than even just 2BB to find out. at the time of your turn decision you are getting 7:1, but when you are ahead you don't win as much as you lose when you are behind on average, so you need to be good here considerably more than the immediate 7:1 odds you are getting on the turn. likely, you need to be good here even more than the 3.5:1 you are getting to see a showdown if you pay 1 BB each street. Further, lots of the times you are good, you will get drawn on the river and pay 2BB to find out. I don't think it's an easy fold, but I think the fold is good. Particularly with two still to act behind you and one is superlag.
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