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Old 04-24-2007, 02:29 AM
n0ctu2ne n0ctu2ne is offline
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Default I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

I spent my effort in this hand trying to protect KK, any input?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (17SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (15BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (17BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

I really don't mind the river check vs an unknown, because his flop &amp; turn play is screaming FD. The pot is pretty huge and we can't really fold to a c/r, so I check behind too. In fact, I can't see any other way to play your hand. Actually, this is actually kind of a scary board vs button. I'm tempted to check the turn.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:58 AM
n0ctu2ne n0ctu2ne is offline
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

I felt like SB was looking for a draw simply because he kept calling the entire way.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

You played it fine
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

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I'm tempted to check the turn.

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Being tempted is ok but you should never actually do it.
I think he hand is played fine, although I'd bet the river. he might have a FD but he might as well have TPGK or even worse. IMHO the way SB played on the flop screams "I'm a retard" much louder than anything about a FD.
Anyway, checking behing on the river is ok vs. an unknown as long as you don't fall for checking all kind of big hands against all kinds of opponent just because you're afraid.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

I'll agree. The action screams "i'll pump the pot so I get mobnies when I hit my draw"

I don't fold KK here and I don't give SB any more action on the river as a great many hands beat us. I frown mightily as the pot moves away from us, punch something and make a note.
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

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I'm tempted to check the turn.

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Being tempted is ok but you should never actually do it.
I think he hand is played fine, although I'd bet the river. he might have a FD but he might as well have TPGK or even worse. IMHO the way SB played on the flop screams "I'm a retard" much louder than anything about a FD.
Anyway, checking behing on the river is ok vs. an unknown as long as you don't fall for checking all kind of big hands against all kinds of opponent just because you're afraid.

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wtf are you talking about? flop play is perfect for a flush draw.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

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flop play is perfect for a flush draw.

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Old 04-24-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

Good on every street. Nice river check through, a flush makes up way too much of his range. Don't be in the habit of checkign through every flush river though.
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: I thought pocket pairs were easy to play

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flop play is perfect for a flush draw.

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I agree, nerdking how do you think a flush should play this flop?

Nice river check, what interests me the most is that wtf button had, can't put him on anything.
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