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Old 11-18-2007, 02:15 PM
jamiezig jamiezig is offline
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Default fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

villian is 23/18 reg, 2p2er. I'm tighter, and I think he knows i'm generally not reraising him too light when he's utg.

i've got 40% equity vs. AK, KK+, which i feel is his range in this situation.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $690
SB: $426.80
BB: $327.50
UTG: $585.20
MP: $153.25
CO: $270.40

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $174</font>

Hero?
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

go all-in
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

i think JJ is also in his range.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

There is an argument that if you didn't want to get it all-in here, you should not have 3-bet in the first place.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

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There is an argument that if you didn't want to get it all-in here, you should not have 3-bet in the first place.

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Not in this case, if hero knows villain's specific 4 betting range (which is different than the range villain will cold call with)
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

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There is an argument that if you didn't want to get it all-in here, you should not have 3-bet in the first place.

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no there isn't.....
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

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There is an argument that if you didn't want to get it all-in here, you should not have 3-bet in the first place.

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no there isn't.....

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QFT
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

If that is his range, you surely know what to do.

Besides, it's fine to raise and fold pre for sure.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

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i think JJ is also in his range.

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u don't even know who the villain is...how can u say this?
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: fold QQ pre?, 2/4 150 BBs deep

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u don't even know who the villain is...how can u say this?

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and u think u knows something about the villian from a "23/18" ? no.
maybe a player who is playing with villian know what his 23/18 means. and if so, why to describe the villian here, if we all know nothing about him ?
i just think that JJ is possible in his range and u don't need to just put QQ+, AKos on his range.
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