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#11
08-05-2007, 03:49 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
ok , typical situation where i play . Blinds 150-300 , 7 players left . And 90% that nobody give me shove from button , also my call from hand to hand will be more tight if anybody push . And very often that i get this situation as in the
article: next round blinds 200-400 and i will call atc from bb by icm . But if i win i get add advantage , guys will be push to me more tight but i will be push more loose and i think that it covered this ev- call on the marginal card . 
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#12
08-05-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
it think he's out of his mind serieusly.
5 players left and he's third in chipstack. others are under more pressure and he can pick up a better hand then 9-8 lol. and what worried me most is he said:" Let us imagine for a minute you listen to an ICM expert and fold your 9-8. Guess what? Two hands later you’re down to 1250 chips and that same “expert” will be telling you to open the pot by pushing all-in from the button when you’re dealt 9-8! " like he really doesn't seem to know the difference between a push and a call !!! thats terrible advice but i agree with him if you double up with blinds this high and have a big chiplead you have a big chance of finishing 1st. so it's true you can show some balls and call wide but 9-8 is stupid
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#13
08-05-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
it doesnt mean what hand he has , he say about 40% winning .
I am sure that for small buyin 6.5-33 it's no actually , because you always have many idiots at the table , and your edge is huge.
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#14
08-05-2007, 04:23 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
well for the high buyins it doesn't make much sence either.
if he thinks such moves is going to prevent players from stealing his blinds he needs to thing again. people will love to get their money in as a 60/40 favorite. people will only push wider against him (in this situations), and at the higher buyins they will know your ranges after a while. so imo such calls only put you in a worse position. i understand what he's saying and indeed if you were the shortstack and the blinds are 25% of your stack you just have to call ATC but in this example there's just no reason to calls this.
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#15
08-05-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
He doesn't understand that no one actually thinks ICM results = $EV. I'm pretty sure an ICM expert will make a lot more +$EV decisions than someone playing by feel.
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#16
08-05-2007, 07:37 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
Albatross is a moron. Check out his P5s posts sometimes. There are a few where he suggests it is profitable to call ATC shoves with any two cards.
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#18
08-05-2007, 08:09 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
His assertion that you have no fold equity with 3xbb stack is just ridiculous.
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#19
08-05-2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
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This article is a lot more convincing after you sharkscope him..... [/ QUOTE ] He beats the 22's at a decent clip, 15% or so. So what? From that article, I'd say his game has a pretty severe flaw that will prevent him from moving up successfully.
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#20
08-05-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: When to Ignore ICM, A Winning Turbo Strategy That Is \'Outside the
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This article is a lot more convincing after you sharkscope him..... [/ QUOTE ] Are the rest of the articles on the site correct and worth reading??
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