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Old 10-14-2007, 09:11 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default early going ak a shove or fold?



Full Tilt Poker Game #3856534019: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (29287995), Table 27 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:05:45 ET - 2007/10/14
Seat 1: bigDIRTYslick (900)
Seat 2: suzymandy (1,410)
Seat 3: hero(1,905)
Seat 4: HeatLighting (1,455)
Seat 5: pktpairssuck (1,455)
Seat 6: Dunty (1,500)
Seat 7: LOREN103 (1,470)
Seat 8: tdallison (1,500)
Seat 9: Matt_want_Cash (1,905)
LOREN103 posts the small blind of 15
tdallison posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero[Kh Ac]
Matt_want_Cash calls 30
2 folds

hero raises to 150
pktpairssuck raises to 525

LOREN103 raises to 1,470, and is all in
Matt_want_Cash folds
hero ?
pktpairssuck still to act
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:50 PM
YouCantEscape YouCantEscape is offline
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Default Re: early going ak a shove or fold?

I might fold here if I have got the read that both guys are really tight. But on the other hand it is a 5.5$ tourney, so you might see some funny hands here.

I personally prefer a shove because its AK and if you win youve got a nice stack to work with. But I don't think folding is a bad mistake here.

Pushing might be a mistake but regarding the fast structures of these low online MTTs and the bad opponents I would take a shot on a decent stack here.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:02 PM
bobbycharles bobbycharles is offline
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Default Re: early going ak a shove or fold?

You know, this early, it depends on my mood. A limp/push could be anything here in a $5. It seems like, however, every time I call this, it's my AK and re-raiser's AK vs UTG's small pair and our days are numbered.

Meh...either way, but I think the "right" answer is fold considering the action.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: early going ak a shove or fold?

i definitely call this.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:32 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: early going ak a shove or fold?

uggggh. I think I call this, but I see your reason(s) for folding. I mean, I guess if someone wants to do the math so the three or four times a year we see this happen, you would calculate how many times you see JJ/QQ here, how many times you see AQ/QQ here, and offset that against how many times you see KK/QQ here, or KK/AK, or AK/AA, my head hurts. Honestly, I don't think it makes that much...[censored]...it's a $5, call. That's really what it comes down to. You have the BR, ham, and it's a $5. That's it. If it's a $10+, it's a fold.

That was terrible, sorry.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: early going ak a shove or fold?

as usual i like calling since the range we see is so wide and the value of having a big stack is worth it to me...starting to hate drifting through these thngs for hours barely staying ahead of the blind and antes
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:29 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: early going ak a shove or fold?

yup shoulda called barry 3bettor showed qq 4 bettor showed jj. flop came AA5
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