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Old 09-20-2007, 12:00 PM
donkeykong2 donkeykong2 is offline
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Default Re: whats a solid BB/100 ratio for Omaha?

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I don't think the adjusted winnings in the PokerEV luck graph actually tends to your true winrate (I think Pete said something like this too recently). According to Phil the author, doing the calculations the more natural way (you get lucky or unlucky for the whole pot) is also subject to bias, but I don't see how.

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the result has to be better in general if we consider if we got lucky in all in situations or not. there is just no point in considering yourself as a like 5bb winner if you just got lucky for that amount in flips. the question is just how much it reduces our variance.
statistically there are some problems with the whole winrate calculations because you need to make some assumptions:
1. table conditions are constant over the time
2. no autocorrelation between our sessions (this might not be true as a lot of people will go on tilt when losing)
3. there is no improvement/decline in our game over the time.

i probably forgot some other assumptions.
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:02 PM
RoundTower RoundTower is offline
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Default Re: whats a solid BB/100 ratio for Omaha?

here is the poker tracker thread about it

http://www.pokertracker.com/forum/vi...dard+deviation
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: whats a solid BB/100 ratio for Omaha?

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old discovery so maybe it has been corrected since but I haven't noticed any change in my SD (in NL) so...

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it really shouldn't make much of a difference if you have a large sample.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:00 PM
Troll_Inc Troll_Inc is offline
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Default Re: whats a solid BB/100 ratio for Omaha?

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here is the poker tracker thread about it

http://www.pokertracker.com/forum/vi...dard+deviation

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LOL, I was going to say that I remember asking that same question. Then I click the link and find out that you linked my thread. Deja vu all over again.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:13 PM
pete fabrizio pete fabrizio is offline
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Default Re: whats a solid BB/100 ratio for Omaha?

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Good thread.

I have acouple of question. First, pete:
If I supposedly have run at 28 BB/100 for 5k hands, what are my likely winrate-interval based on your table? I didn't quite get your explanation.

Second, what is PokerEv, and is it useful?

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the chart doesn't purport to give you an "interval" of any kind, it just tells you how frequently you should expect your hot-streak to occur for players at various winrates. i will tell you that a break-even player who plays 5000 hands will go on a 28bb/100 heater about 1.5% of the time, where a 10bb/100 winner will go on the same hot streak about 8% of the time.
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