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Old 07-26-2007, 02:05 AM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

Villain is a solid winning regular, xyz888. This obviously isn't my normal line but it felt right here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1340)
MP3 (t1580)
CO (t1470)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1670)
BB (t1530)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t80, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t270) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, Hero folds,
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

seems good, a strong player isnt cbetting worse on that board (AK hearts maybe, but thats close anyways), plus utg behind you prob makes this a fold, no harm no foul.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:49 AM
sence25 sence25 is offline
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

why no 3-bet pf?
is it cuz if he 4bets, you have to fold and if they fold, you haven't won this much?
enlight me plz! : )
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

His range from UTG is very tight and I don't know if he's a push AK preflop kind of guy so I'd rather see a flop in position and hopefully outplay him.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

This looks like a solid play. I really think this is one of the things you have to be able to do at higher stakes vs lower.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

i'd take the same line vs this villian. nice hand.

that is beauty of calling preflop with QQ and having 3 see the flop. his hand becomes very transparent when he c-bets this flop.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

Seems weak, but I can't find a flaw in it. NH
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:25 PM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

Did you call for set value only?
I agree you only beat AK now but just folding seems so weak, why not flat calling to see if he fires the turn too?

Also, what if instead of J the flop was 3 rags? is it still a fold?
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

i would call and fold to a turn bet

if he bets AK he bets TT, he can also theoretically have AQ, and most good regulars that cbet will shut down on the turn imo

of course, if he can't have AK then yes fold
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:32 PM
MEJG2 MEJG2 is offline
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

You say tight, So what range do you put him on utg+1 pre?
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