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Old 10-14-2007, 10:44 PM
Some9 Some9 is offline
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Default NL200 3rd hand vs villain

unfort no read on him yet except for the weird min3bet.

I really don't know wtf he was doing there. Is there any hand he call that with?


Blinds: $1/$2
2 players

Stack sizes:
Hero: $375.35
BB: $228.30

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($20, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($60, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $30</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($120, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $45</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $315.35</font>
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

That river move makes absolutly no sense to me
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:43 AM
KakiTee KakiTee is offline
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

well your line looks alot like air, i don't think KQ will pay you off here :P
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:46 AM
Cool_Hwip Cool_Hwip is offline
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

Fish like this are usually huge stations once theyve bet that small on the river. Plus your hand looks like air.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:56 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

You should be scared that villain bluffed all the way and got there with that ace. Unless you have a read (which you don't have) that this is a blocking bet from something like kings or queens, I just call here. Looks like he has you beat, but I can't fold on the river getting 4 to 1. I call here.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

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I just call here. Looks like he has you beat, but I can't fold on the river getting 4 to 1. I call here.

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calling here is awful, and I don't like raising either. just fold
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

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I just call here. Looks like he has you beat, but I can't fold on the river getting 4 to 1. I call here.

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calling here is awful, and I don't like raising either. just fold

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Calling too much is my biggest leak. I can't fold any pair if I get 4 to 1 on the river. But if you look at it, he only has to bluff one out of five times in order for you to break even. Most villains have at least that big bluff frequency. So I can't really decide if calling here is a leak.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

bluffing with what, k high?
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: NL200 3rd hand vs villain

I agree that calling doesn't look good .

You are really only re-raising to $168 otr which is not as bad as some people think . If he gets him to fold a better hand about 50% of the time , then re-raising is neutral EV .

If you put him on pocket 7's and up , a-j+ and k-q , then any pocket pair from 7's to k's may have a hard time calling . There are 7*6=42 pocket pair hands below the ace and 12*3 = 36 ace hands . There are an additional 12 hands that contain a k-q . So if we assume these pocket pairs all fold to your re-raise as well as k-q , then you'd win (42+12)/90=60% which makes the river raise positive EV .
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