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Old 11-25-2007, 07:55 PM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

Villian is 25/17 and goes to showdown 36% of the time.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

River: (7.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

I don't think this bluff works often enough for it to be profitable, even if you consider it a semibluff with 3-6 outs. I think even 36% showdown guys can get stubborn with A-high on this board.

What is your plan if 3-bet on the turn?
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

I'm a 25/17, and if I "bet" this turn, you have 0 outs, 3 outs or 6 outs.

Once I call the turn, I'm never folding the river.

I think this is some spewtardedness
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

Dunno what your playing style is, but this is one of those spots where I'd c/r really really light looking to get called down by K-high or a weak A-high. Really don't like it as a bluff.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

with ppl always suspecting everyone's c/r is either a flush draw or turn re-draw to the str8 I don't think it's worth giving it a shot.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

Alright, I spent $30 to learn something, I guess.

If I'm villian holding ace high, this is most certainly not an EASY call down, butttt... Efficacy pointed out to me that the c/c, c/r line looks a bit fishy, and I can see that. I wouldn't do that with too many hands on this board. I didn't give my opponent enough hand reading credit. My game-time instinct was something to the effect of "I called in the blinds, so representing a strong low card hand makes sense". I then reasoned, incorrectly, that the best way for me to represent strength would be to c/r the turn, when typically I'd c/r the flop with a strong made hand.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

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I'm a 25/17, and if I "bet" this turn, you have 0 outs, 3 outs or 6 outs.

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Really? How do you not c-bet that turn? Every hand ever peels that flop.

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Once I call the turn, I'm never folding the river.

I think this is some spewtardedness

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Totally agree.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

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I'm a 25/17, and if I "bet" this turn, you have 0 outs, 3 outs or 6 outs.

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Really? How do you not c-bet that turn? Every hand ever peels that flop.

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Once I call the turn, I'm never folding the river.

I think this is some spewtardedness

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Totally agree.

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I bet the river because I knew that it was my only way to win. It appears that it was something of a hopeless bet, though.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

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I'm a 25/17, and if I "bet" this turn, you have 0 outs, 3 outs or 6 outs.

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Really? How do you not c-bet that turn? Every hand ever peels that flop.

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Once I call the turn, I'm never folding the river.

I think this is some spewtardedness

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Totally agree.

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because I get c/r by players like the OP and Don't wnat to spend 3BB to get to river.

and everyone bets the river for me anyway, so I still get 1 bb on the river.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Brass bluffs a Stars 5/10 reg

[ QUOTE ]
I'm a 25/17, and if I "bet" this turn, you have 0 outs, 3 outs or 6 outs.

Once I call the turn, I'm never folding the river.

I think this is some spewtardedness

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i agree here, if i call ur reraise on this board i am not folding to a river bet
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