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Old 10-31-2007, 04:37 PM
SammyG-SD SammyG-SD is offline
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

I play this hand fast and aggressive. Only thing you are really afraid of is a set, and you still have FE against a made flush since you have the ace.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

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I play this hand fast and aggressive. Only thing you are really afraid of is a set, and you still have FE against a made flush since you have the ace.

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-To expand on my answer, PSB the flop, turn, river. I would call a raise, and would push a raise if I feel the villian is loose. This is one of my favorite hands. You are actually ahead of TPTK, and I found that when I do push, I am often called by worse FD. Plus a set would likely fold, if not you will catch up enough times to make this profitable.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

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I play this hand fast and aggressive. Only thing you are really afraid of is a set, and you still have FE against a made flush since you have the ace.

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-To expand on my answer, PSB the flop, turn, river. I would call a raise, and would push a raise if I feel the villian is loose. This is one of my favorite hands. You are actually ahead of TPTK, and I found that when I do push, I am often called by worse FD. Plus a set would likely fold, if not you will catch up enough times to make this profitable.

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A set is folding to an eventual shove on the flop?
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

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and you still have FE against a made flush since you have the ace.


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You have 0 fold equity against a made flush on this flop
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

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A set is folding to an eventual shove on the flop?

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A good player no, but just enough bad players will fold with mid/bottom set-that along with the times you push out TP and catch up with your draws makes pushing a +EV. Most players at 50NL will be calling with a set, but more players are going to be calling with a worse FD.
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

I will also play this hand fast sometimes, like 40%. That is the great thing about a hand like this, you can play it about any way you want, the only thing that is -EV is folding.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

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A set is folding to an eventual shove on the flop?

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A good player no, but just enough bad players will fold with mid/bottom set-that along with the times you push out TP and catch up with your draws makes pushing a +EV. Most players at 50NL will be calling with a set, but more players are going to be calling with a worse FD.

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lol, nobody is folding a set on the flop when they can still boat up.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

i did badly here...

i did, in fact, lead the flop, but probably not for enough, and i was raised. I only called the raise and checked the turn.... very weak

Hero (BB): $58.50
UTG+1: $49.25

Flop: ($2.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $10</font>, Hero??


I've managed to work my way into a kinda poor spot with this hand.. should i shove at this point? I'm not sure if i have anything beyond the flush outs... fold?
Maybe i should have 3bet the flop, but i didn't know the player so wasn't sure what to do
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

No NL50 player is folding a set on this flop with house outs in the rare case they are behind.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:10 AM
MM_red33 MM_red33 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 flopped pair and NFD in BB, how should i tackle this?

On the flop i would pot it to rep a Q. Dude calls behind. Lead out 6 ish on turn and reval river.

hands i put vil on AQ, low flush like 910 or j10 or something, or set.
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