The Worst Strategy You've Overheard at a Table

[Florida]

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from a little $5 game I used to play:

After 4-5 people go all in preflop, 1 guy calls with 74o, after everyone flips their hands over (obv. big hands) he say's "I knew you all had big cards, now i'm the favorite b/c there's less big cards for y'all to hit.
Not particularly striking until i found out that he has been teaching high school math for 30 years.

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even worse he happens to be your uncle

[lsuplayer]

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from a little $5 game I used to play:

After 4-5 people go all in preflop, 1 guy calls with 74o, after everyone flips their hands over (obv. big hands) he say's "I knew you all had big cards, now i'm the favorite b/c there's less big cards for y'all to hit.
Not particularly striking until i found out that he has been teaching high school math for 30 years.

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Actually he may be right on. If the other 4 guys all have the same several high over cards, then they cannibalize each other's equity. The guy with 74o has two live cards, and if either one hits and no one has a high pocket pair, he's probably good. He can easily have greater than 20% equity there.

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bigs PAIRS obv.

[Dima2000123]

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from a little $5 game I used to play:

After 4-5 people go all in preflop, 1 guy calls with 74o, after everyone flips their hands over (obv. big hands) he say's "I knew you all had big cards, now i'm the favorite b/c there's less big cards for y'all to hit.
Not particularly striking until i found out that he has been teaching high school math for 30 years.

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Actually he may be right on. If the other 4 guys all have the same several high over cards, then they cannibalize each other's equity. The guy with 74o has two live cards, and if either one hits and no one has a high pocket pair, he's probably good. He can easily have greater than 20% equity there.

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bigs PAIRS obv.

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Still, here's a food for thought:

pokenum -h ac qs - kc qh - qc qd - kd ks - 7c 4s
Holdem Hi: 850668 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Ac 187889 22.09 658344 77.39 4435 0.52 0.222
Kc Qh 66714 7.84 779519 91.64 4435 0.52 0.080
Qc Qd 76 0.01 846157 99.47 4435 0.52 0.001
Ks Kd 434147 51.04 413417 48.60 3104 0.36 0.511
4s 7c 157407 18.50 690157 81.13 3104 0.36 0.186

It seems like the 74o is in big trouble, facing two big pairs and two sets of overcards, and yet even in such a terrible case it's almost right to call 4 all-ins (assuming everyone has equal stacks). If no one has a pocket pair, then you can have almost 50% equity with your 74o monster. At some point overlapping cards in other people's hands actually increase the chance of you winning a showdown; not only is the pie getting bigger with more hands in, but you're also getting a proportionally bigger piece of that bigger pie.

[Dima2000123]

Oops, never mind, I missed the part where he said he's a favorite. He may be getting his money in good, but he won't be a favorite unless all four other guys happen to have the same hand.

[ShipitFMA]

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I chuckled, but managed to keep it under my breath. Then the megadonk on my right tried to pay for his beer with tournament chips and I just burst out laughing.

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You win this thread.

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Hahhaha, everytime i'm playing poker with mates and we order pizza, we always try to pay for it in poker chips claiming to the barely speaking delivery man "this is legal tender buddy"...hahah

As far as poker goes, i caught a 4 outer on the river to win the hand and my friend (i use this term losely) was going nuts saying it was rigged..
I proceeded to tell him he cant win EVERYTIME he's a 90% favourite...He responds WELL i want to win 90% of the time then....Not being able to fatham he lost once as a big favourite

[JeffO]

While playing at the local casino in a 40/80 game, we somehow got on the topic of the Q7 being called the computer hand. Guy #1 asks if anyone knows why they call Q7 the computer hand. Guy #2 answers confidently that "They call it the computer hand because someone ran millions of hand simulations on a computer and the Q7 did better then every other hand."

[ChuckyB]

Monday night, 4/8 at the casino.

Heard from the super-loose-cold-calling-over-valuing-any-ace-pre-flop-pays-off-like-he's-got-INTERAC-tattooed-on-his-forehead-post-flop guy...

"There's no point in raising JJ with 5 people in the hand. They never hold up. [reach to wallet for another $100 bill] I hate big pairs. [/reach to wallet for another $100 bill]"

[googleit123]

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Monday night, 4/8 at the casino.

Heard from the super-loose-cold-calling-over-valuing-any-ace-pre-flop-pays-off-like-he's-got-INTERAC-tattooed-on-his-forehead-post-flop guy...

"There's no point in raising JJ with 5 people in the hand. They never hold up. [reach to wallet for another $100 bill] I hate big pairs. [/reach to wallet for another $100 bill]"

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I don't think he understands that:
1) Jacks most likely are the preflop fav (33 percent or so)
2) You are pushing your edge
4) Calling a raise with KTo is NOT profitable
3) With 5 players in the pot, are you kidding me, that's dead money son!

But on the other hand the chance that a over will flop and that the flop will give somebody else a draw is large.
But you have to push your edge and hope for the best. That's why poker is gambling. (with odds , of course)

[Bulbarainey]

a dealer from one gardena casino was playing at another one at a table with me, trying to tell me that in all of his years of experience as a dealer, the most important thing he learned is that 'how the dealer cuts' the deck determines who is lucky and who is going to win, and that certain dealers cut the deck in a certain way that only certain players will win, and then to play accordingly.

[mtgordon]

I've heard a dealer say that KJo is the most profitable hand.