NL25 flush line check

WantToLearn · #1 11-14-2007, 10:07 AM

Ok, here is another flush. I have the 2nd nuts. Is everything fine here?

Reads: UTG and SB are very bad players, the other villain is more or less unknown, but at least he is not an ultra-gambler or so.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($28.65)
UTG ($19.95)
UTG+1 ($38.30)
MP1 ($13.90)
MP2 ($10.70)
CO ($23.55)
Button ($5.70)
SB ($9.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.5, UTG calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($2) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75.

River: ($5) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $8.2 (All-In), Hero calls $8.20, UTG calls $8.20, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $29.60

TheBad · #2 11-14-2007, 10:25 AM

If u raise PF, raise more. Bet that flop ! You have a flush draw + a gutshot + 2overcards that might be good.
As played, i like turn and river.

CaptVimes · #3 11-14-2007, 10:28 AM

Just call this out of the BB, mini-raises accomplish nothing and your OOP. Too passive on the flop. You have a flush draw, plus a gut shot, plus overs. Lead for 2.00 and see what happens.

RapidEvolution · #4 11-14-2007, 10:31 AM

I'd really rather just call this PF. You have a good hand that you can easily get away from if you miss. Why raise and risk getting 4bet off your hand? If you're going to raise, why the minraise? Sweetening the pot while keeping it multiway would be much better if you had position, IMO. With a FD/overs/inside straight draw, I'm betting out here, especially since you raised PF.

Once SB bets out at you on the turn, I think calling is the right move. With the 2nd nuts, I'm calling river here for sure. Actually, given the fact that UTG is a tard, overshoving might be good here. I'd like to hear more on this.

PLAYOFFS · #5 11-14-2007, 10:53 AM

I like it. PF min raise is normally a bad play unless you flop something like this, which happens rarely. I'd limp it pf or raise it more. As played I like the call on the river. A raise gets no callers.

WantToLearn · #6 11-14-2007, 11:04 AM

Thanks to all!

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Well, the small blind slowplayed his flopped straight and made a desparation bet, and the big blind won with the nuts flush. I´m actualy planning a short visit to the bad beat forum very soon should this all go on like that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

EDIT: ok it´s not a bad beat actualy. Just bad luck.

AlexB182 · #7 11-14-2007, 11:53 AM

I think preflop and flop are both pretty bad, rest is good, standard though..

Landlord79 · #8 11-14-2007, 12:59 PM

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QFT - min raise from the big blind is just plain spewy! Bet the flop!

BJJIII · #9 11-14-2007, 06:07 PM

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Reads: UTG and SB and OP are very bad players, the other villain is more or less unknown, but at least he is not an ultra-gambler or so.

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WantToLearn · #10 11-14-2007, 06:41 PM

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Reads: UTG and SB and OP are very bad players, the other villain is more or less unknown, but at least he is not an ultra-gambler or so.

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Hence my nickname. Very helpfull comment by the way.