trips vs huge allin

[gopnik]

Villain is mostly unknown. He has not done anything stupid. Does not seem to be very tight or overly aggressive.

My flop check is probably aweful, but assuming I got to the turn this way, do I call the allin bet?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($31.25)
BB ($86.80)
UTG ($1.45)
MP ($29.70)
CO ($45.30)
Hero ($51.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.45 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.45, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.15.

Flop: ($4.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $66.6</font>, Hero ???

[Bowlboy]

3bet preflop, and lead flop. As played you have to fold. You're getting zeeboed here.

[orig!naL]

I think you have to call here. I don't see how he calls that PF bet with 2/3. If he did have the nut straight why is he shoving? If this guy has it he stacks me, but I'm getting my money in here.

[ocdscale]

The worry isn't 23, it's something like A4s, A5s, 44, 55

[tarheeljks]

why would he be leading ai w/a full house?

[Xamot]

before the flop i put the BB on a pocket pair.

since he shoves on the turn, then he probably had pocket 5s to make him a full house.

[orig!naL]

very true.. but like tarheeljks said. Why shove with the FH?

[Xamot]

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very true.. but like tarheeljks said. Why shove with the FH?

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noobs. they always love to shove the nuts into your face.. they always get called by overthinkers so positive reinforcements makes them do it.

the only reason why i would fold is because my read on the turn is consistent with his actions pre-flop. if he raised preflop, i would call him in an instant.

[Xamot]

think of it this way too. what hands are going to pay you off?

* A2 - AJ (anything over your AQ would have re-raised) excluding A4 and A5
* a bluff
* missed straight or flush draws

it's a small pot, i'm not going broke over this hand. and i usually don't put much faith in sets that exist as a pair on the board.

[ocdscale]

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why would he be leading ai w/a full house?

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That's zeebo's theorem, slightly adjusted to trips.
Villain believes no one will folds trips, he pushes all-in with a made boat expecting a call from AK/AQ.

The fact that you're thinking he can't have a full house is what makes that play profitable. (Not optimal, but certainly +EV)