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Old 04-18-2007, 01:54 AM
scottywhen333 scottywhen333 is offline
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Default Protecting an above average stack...

Quit setup: First of all, note this is a very low stakes SnG ($5.50 FTP), and the level of play by the others players is.. less than stellar. It's quickly down to 7 handed, and i managed to double up when my QQ held up against 99 on a ragged flop. It is essentially myself and one other player at the head of the pack, and 5 others with still close to the starting stack. Basically, my read on the villain is he sucks, and he has made this unpredictable move before. The question isn't if I'm ahead of his range, but I guess how much ahead, and if it's worth it? Thoughts?

Seat 1: Button (1,190)
Seat 2: SB (1,260)
Seat 3: BB (1,300)
Seat 4: UTG Villain (1,785)
Seat 5: Hero (3,170)
Seat 6: MP1 (3,225)
Seat 7: CO (1,570)
Seat 2 posts the small blind of 25
Seat 3 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kd Ad]
UTG Villain calls 50
Hero raises to 200
MP1 folds
CO folds
Button folds
SB folds
BB folds
UTG Villain raises to 1,785, and is all in
Hero ?
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:00 AM
FoolyCooly FoolyCooly is offline
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

at a 5.50 i'm calling this all day.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

I;d fold, no need to gamble away your advantage here - you can put that stack to better use as the blinds go up / players reduce.

Once concern is that the other bigger stack is to your immediate left - but at BB50 you can find a better spot than this.

Cheers, Mark
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:26 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

I'm definitley calling this. We have 200 invested, we have AK which most of the time isn't far behind and we have over 3k. A loss here just puts us back to around starting size and a win gives us a huge lead that we can take advantage of in the coming levels.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

call quickly
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:53 AM
JayTee JayTee is offline
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

Ignore the monsters under the bed and call quickly. I used to fold this hand here, but realized that the value that I am giving up to non AA/KK hands more than compensates for the times that you are dominated (note that given the dead money in the pot, calling against any hand other than AA/KK is +cEV). Expect to be shown pure trash often.
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:24 AM
scottywhen333 scottywhen333 is offline
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

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call quickly

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Well, this was the exact line I took and always have taken in this situation, but when I ended up losing to 77, I was barely able to play another hand until shoving JJ at 80/160. This was mostly due to aforementioned UTG donk's reckless aggression, and it left me wondering if declining to race would've been a better option. I guess having 200 in makes this an insta-call?
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

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call quickly

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Well, this was the exact line I took and always have taken in this situation, but when I ended up losing to 77, I was barely able to play another hand until shoving JJ at 80/160. This was mostly due to aforementioned UTG donk's reckless aggression, and it left me wondering if declining to race would've been a better option. I guess having 200 in makes this an insta-call?

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If he can have 77 why not AQ or AJ?
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:42 AM
scottywhen333 scottywhen333 is offline
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

Honestly I think he could have had QJ, KT, 44, A8 or anything in between, which puts me somewhere around 200 miles ahead of this guy's range. I just don't really expect to be more than a 3:2 favorite... maybe I'm turning into a wimp here when I have chips.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:23 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: Protecting an above average stack...

I fold everytime here as he has AK or a pair a lot, imo, and there will be a lot of much easier / better situation in this 5.5 sng.
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