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Old 03-02-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default 10 Reasons you should never get a job!

Thought this article was both amusing and inspirational - definitely in the spirit of the MMB forum...

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ver-get-a-job/

Cheers, Mark
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: 10 Reasons you should never get a job!

interesting read but kinda stupid\over the top

"An inbred social life."
"Begging for money."

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Old 03-02-2007, 10:25 AM
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I've read this before, it's laughable at best. What a joke.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:34 PM
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I agree with all 10 reasons. Some reasons have exagerrated explanations but the point still stands.

There are more reasons why you shouldn't but this only scratches the surface.
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:28 PM
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I agree with all 10 reasons. Some reasons have exagerrated explanations but the point still stands.


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Old 03-03-2007, 03:50 AM
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I agree with all 10 reasons. Some reasons have exagerrated explanations but the point still stands.

There are more reasons why you shouldn't but this only scratches the surface.

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You might think it’s important to get a job to gain experience. But that’s like saying you should play golf to get experience playing golf. You gain experience from living, regardless of whether you have a job or not. A job only gives you experience at that job, but you gain ”experience” doing just about anything, so that’s no real benefit at all. Sit around doing nothing for a couple years, and you can call yourself an experienced meditator, philosopher, or politician.

This is ridiculous. Playing golf to get experience playing golf is completely reasonable. Sit around and do nothing to get experience? Call yourself a politician? Give me a break man, you know this is crap. You would be a fool to try to run your own business without ever having a job.

Humans are not meant to be raised in cages. You poor thing…

Also clearly unreasonable. Who would call their office a cage?

You only get paid a fraction of the real value you generate. Your real salary may be more than triple what you’re paid, but most of that money you’ll never see. It goes straight into other people’s pockets.

This makes it very clear he doesn't understand wtf he's talking about. You have to get paid less than your "real salary" because the business that employs you needs to have money to expand. If they paid out your full value they wouldn't be able to add value to the business. If they had paid everyone they hired before you their full value they wouldn't have been able to hire you.




Okay, I think that's enough. You know you don't agree with everything he says.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:55 AM
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Just a bunch of Kiyosaki style pep talk. Maybe he is not aware of the small biz failure rate:

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The NFIB estimates that over the lifetime of a business, 39% are profitable, 30% break even, and 30% lose money, with 1% falling in the "unable to determine" category.

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The reality is that different people have different skills and market demand for those skills.

For example, if a person is talented enough to be a successful professional then it's probably optimal for that person to complete his studies.

However, for someone that is not smart or capable to succeed in a traditional environment, and can't obtain a relatively high paying professional position, then starting his own business might be optimal.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:03 AM
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You only get paid a fraction of the real value you generate. Your real salary may be more than triple what you’re paid, but most of that money you’ll never see. It goes straight into other people’s pockets.

This makes it very clear he doesn't understand wtf he's talking about. You have to get paid less than your "real salary" because the business that employs you needs to have money to expand. If they paid out your full value they wouldn't be able to add value to the business. If they had paid everyone they hired before you their full value they wouldn't have been able to hire you.


You do realize that you completely agree with his statement.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:42 AM
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The NFIB estimates that over the lifetime of a business, 39% are profitable, 30% break even, and 30% lose money, with 1% falling in the "unable to determine" category.

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Do these kind of numbers remind you of anything?
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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The reality is that different people have different skills and market demand for those skills.

For example, if a person is talented enough to be a successful professional then it's probably optimal for that person to complete his studies.

However, for someone that is not smart or capable to succeed in a traditional environment, and can't obtain a relatively high paying professional position, then starting his own business might be optimal.

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So in your opinion, jobs are likely the most optimal decision for people who are smart; and businesses are optimal for people who are not smart? That reads to me like a backhanded swipe at the intellegance of anyone choosing a business over a conventional job...

In 2002, 64 percent of the owners of respondent firms had at least some college education at the time they started or acquired ownership in their business; 23 percent had a bachelor's degree; and 17 percent had a graduate degree. A bachelor's degree was the highest college degree completed by over 20 percent of all owners of both employer firms and nonemployer firms.

Among business owners with a graduate degree, nearly 56 percent of the majority interest owners of employer firms held a Master's, Doctorate or Professional Degree, compared to 72 percent of the majority interest owners of nonemployer firms.

Just under 1-in-4 of all owners of employer firms had a high school education or less, compared to 28 percent of the owners of nonemployer firms... U.S Census Bureau 2002


... What you have done is confuse book smarts with leadership skills. For you see, starting a business and making it successful has nothing to do with someones books smarts (therefore whether they have a lot of traditional learning or very little tradtitional education has little or no bearing on whether or not a business career is an ideal career choice for them). You don't need to be knowledgable about a business product/model to sell it profitably... thats what you hire your employees for.

Running a successful business is about having leadership skills, rock solid confidence in your business model, having a well tuned social IQ and finally having enough gamble in your heart to be able to take calculated risks for big long term rewards.

Of course some businesses fail... everything in life, personal or profesional, is a risk... why should starting a business be any different? The risk of failure will always be one of the risks you take when you take up the game of entreprunership... however the rewards far outweigh it.
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