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#71
11-08-2007, 01:28 PM
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Re: The Rivalry
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think the hijacks demonstrate why us non-Boston/NY people hate Boston/NY people. There are only 17,000 threads devoted to Boston and NY sports in some capacity; this one isn't, but I guess they can't stand a non-NY/Boston thread. [/ QUOTE ] Yea man, because a thread entitled "The Rivalry" shouldn't generate discussion as to what the best rivalry is, aside from the one suggested in the OP. Right... IMO college football rivalries are way overhyped. Navy fans rushed the field after giving the Irish their 8th loss on the season. Sweet. Army-Navy routinely suck yet they put that trash on NBC? No thanks. UM and OSU are power college football programs, but to me that's just another regular season game, unless they meet in the NC game. I don't mind UM, but OSU fans are beyond annoying, especially considering it ISNT EVEN A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM. For some reason, I object to claiming an amateur athletic competition as being "The Rivalry". [/ QUOTE ] Wow, this is the dumbest thing I've read today. Congratulations. [/ QUOTE ] if you think that's stupid you should check out my posts from today in this thread! 
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11-08-2007, 01:31 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Wait, are we actually debating what the best rivalry in sports is, or are we debating the Mich vs OSU game? Cause if we're debating the best rivalry is, Carolina vs Duke is most definetely up there. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, not professional sports teams. DQ'd. [/ QUOTE ] Ok forget I ever said the professional thing. Today and yesterday have no been my best posting days. I'm in a slump. I need a slump-buster, where's that Halloween fattie thread from BBV at?!? UNC-Duke vs. UM-OSU would be a very good debate.
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#73
11-08-2007, 01:46 PM
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Re: The Rivalry
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wait, are we actually debating what the best rivalry in sports is, or are we debating the Mich vs OSU game? Cause if we're debating the best rivalry is, Carolina vs Duke is most definetely up there. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, not professional sports teams. DQ'd. [/ QUOTE ] Ok forget I ever said the professional thing. Today and yesterday have no been my best posting days. I'm in a slump. I need a slump-buster, where's that Halloween fattie thread from BBV at?!? UNC-Duke vs. UM-OSU would be a very good debate. [/ QUOTE ] It would in theory but since the criteria are so vague it's pretty hard. If you care about how fans interact then M-OSU goes down a bit since there isn't nearly so much interaction on a regular basis as with instate rivalries. Someone (Mandel?) wrote an article comparing rivalries and decided that because M and OSU weren't in the same state they couldn't be under consideration. I guess that's a fair point if you use that as your criteria, but it seems like it should be one point among many, not wholly dispositive.
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#74
11-08-2007, 01:49 PM
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Re: The Rivalry
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wait, are we actually debating what the best rivalry in sports is, or are we debating the Mich vs OSU game? Cause if we're debating the best rivalry is, Carolina vs Duke is most definetely up there. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, not professional sports teams. DQ'd. [/ QUOTE ] Ok forget I ever said the professional thing. Today and yesterday have no been my best posting days. I'm in a slump. I need a slump-buster, where's that Halloween fattie thread from BBV at?!? UNC-Duke vs. UM-OSU would be a very good debate. [/ QUOTE ] It would in theory but since the criteria are so vague it's pretty hard. If you care about how fans interact then M-OSU goes down a bit since there isn't nearly so much interaction on a regular basis as with instate rivalries. Someone (Mandel?) wrote an article comparing rivalries and decided that because M and OSU weren't in the same state they couldn't be under consideration. I guess that's a fair point if you use that as your criteria, but it seems like it should be one point among many, not wholly dispositive. [/ QUOTE ] In my opinion, the "separate" us vs. them mentality makes it great. I can see the other side too, but I don't agree with it.
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#75
11-08-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: The Rivalry
I honestly feel that the UM-OSU game means more than the UNC-Duke game. I'd put UNC-Duke basketball as the 2nd best rivalry in sports (pro sports included) behind UM-OSU. It's not because the fans care more (tough to say whose fans care more out of the two), it's just because of the way college football is setup. In about half of the years that UM and OSU play, both have a chance to go to either the Rose Bowl or NC game. Whomever loses that game, their season is essentially ruined. Whomever loses one of 2 or 3 UNC-Duke games throughout the year drops from a 1 to a 2 seed in the NCAA tourney. I'm not trying to knock UNC-Duke at all, I just think the way that college football is setup makes the UM-OSU rivalry that much more significant.
I get my first live taste of a UM-OSU game next weekend, I'm already excited for it.
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#76
11-08-2007, 01:57 PM
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Re: The Rivalry
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I honestly feel that the UM-OSU game means more than the UNC-Duke game. I'd put UNC-Duke basketball as the 2nd best rivalry in sports (pro sports included) behind UM-OSU. It's not because the fans care more (tough to say whose fans care more out of the two), it's just because of the way college football is setup. In about half of the years that UM and OSU play, both have a chance to go to either the Rose Bowl or NC game. Whomever loses that game, their season is essentially ruined. Whomever loses one of 2 or 3 UNC-Duke games throughout the year drops from a 1 to a 2 seed in the NCAA tourney. I'm not trying to knock UNC-Duke at all, I just think the way that college football is setup makes the UM-OSU rivalry that much more significant. I get my first live taste of a UM-OSU game next weekend, I'm already excited for it. [/ QUOTE ] Good post, I agree with pretty much all of it when comparing the two.
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#77
11-08-2007, 01:57 PM
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I honestly feel that the UM-OSU game means more than the UNC-Duke game. I'd put UNC-Duke basketball as the 2nd best rivalry in sports (pro sports included) behind UM-OSU. It's not because the fans care more (tough to say whose fans care more out of the two), it's just because of the way college football is setup. In about half of the years that UM and OSU play, both have a chance to go to either the Rose Bowl or NC game. Whomever loses that game, their season is essentially ruined. Whomever loses one of 2 or 3 UNC-Duke games throughout the year drops from a 1 to a 2 seed in the NCAA tourney. I'm not trying to knock UNC-Duke at all, I just think the way that college football is setup makes the UM-OSU rivalry that much more significant. I get my first live taste of a UM-OSU game next weekend, I'm already excited for it. [/ QUOTE ] I have the same basic impulse, and this more generally is why I love college football so much (also because our football team >>>>>>> our basketball team, lately). I don't know if that's totally fair since you're basically saying college football is better than college basketball as an implicit part of the argument, but since I'm on board with that idea I can see it. It's just great to be so invested in each individual game that a great win leaves you on a high for the rest of the weekend and into the week, and a loss totally kills it. Every other sport, you lose a game, it sucks, oh well, you'll play another in 3 days. Some mean more than others but even though a loss to a fierce rival in bball may have a big emotional punch, it doesn't mean much in terms of the way your season progresses. You lost to OSU or Michigan and there goes the Rose Bowl/Big Ten/MNC hopes.
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#79
11-08-2007, 03:15 PM
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Alabama/Auburn definitely has a higher level of hatred across the fan base than any other rivalry. I'm not sure if it's true; but I have been told that Toomer's Corner (a tree Auburn fans roll when they win a game) was rolled when Bear Bryant died. These people don't just want to beat each other. They want the other school to blow up and the fans to die in a grease fire. It's on a whole other level.
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#80
11-08-2007, 03:22 PM
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I'm not necessarily saying that College football is better than college basketball. College basketball is excellent and March Madness is the most exciting time of the year. I just think that the way college football is setup in that every game is a must-win game makes for more exciting yearly rivalries because the season of the loser is essentially ruined when one or both teams are national title contenders year in and year out.
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