Horrible Play?

PugsMcGee · #1 10-02-2007, 03:33 PM

Was this just a horrible play by me?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($102.35)
Hero ($52.15)
CO ($19.15)
Button ($68.40)
SB ($57.65)
BB ($48.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $2, Hero calls $2, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, BB raises to $9.5, UTG folds, Hero calls $7, CO folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($24.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $15.5, Hero raises to $43.15 (All-In), BB calls $24.45 (All-In).

Turn: ($104.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($104.40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $104.40

BrunoThePug · #2 10-02-2007, 03:38 PM

Pre-flop sucks. I think if you're going to be in the pot you need to 3-bet UTG (depending on how they play) and even if you call I think you're behind BB's 4-bet range.

I also don't like the flop. If we say villains 4-bet range at the very least includes AA - JJ and AKs you're behind. You've got the BD flush draw but the A, Q, J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] are all in villains range so you're flush outs probably aren't as nice as you'd expect.

On the flop it looks like you're getting yourself committed to a hand that doesn't deserve commitment. Unless you have some specific read on BB I don't see how you're ahead of much of his range.

kurto · #3 10-02-2007, 03:48 PM

Yes. Pretty Horrible.

(1) You're likely behind preflop and aren't likely going to have the implied odds to play for setvalue. Probably better off just folding.

(2) Considering the potsize, I don't think your bluff is likely to force many folds at all. You're not ahead of the vast majority of his range. And there's a reasonable chance that your flush outs aren't good.

I hate it.

wslee00 · #4 10-02-2007, 03:50 PM

please fold pf to the 3-bet.

matt85 · #5 10-02-2007, 03:51 PM

Mega spew IMO.

Logun · #6 10-02-2007, 03:55 PM

I don't like it - PF or post

PF - I think you are WAY behind his range. I don't think I've ever seen a blind squeeze 4players - meaning they have a hand
JJ/QQ/KK/AA and maybe AK. You are ahead of AK. Therefore you are set mining but BB stack doesn't really offer you proper odds to do so. You litterally need to felt him to get proper odds.

Post flop ahhh well now AK is beating you too

n4rf · #7 10-02-2007, 04:37 PM

Yeah this was pretty bad. What is your motivation behind pushing all in on the flop when you know that BB has a pretty big hand... The only thing you can beat is a continuation bet that missed the flop. It is HIGHLY unlikely that he missed the flop since I assume he has QQ+ or AK too.

I really don't think you considered what villain had, you just thought 2 9's were good and you were drawing to a crap draw.

Preflop is bad too, that bet is way too big to be calling with 99 with your stack. It's not going to pay off unless you know that villain will pay you off if you hit a set (which he probably would have, but it's too much of a risk with a $9 raise).

wporter · #8 10-03-2007, 12:08 AM

definitely not a good play at all. preflop isnt good, but as played you gotta fold the flop.

corsakh · #9 10-03-2007, 01:14 AM

[x] lol'ed

PugsMcGee · #10 10-03-2007, 01:36 AM

Honestly I thought that he had KK or QQ and tried to push me out of the pot. Just took a chance and apparently lost lol.