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Old 10-16-2007, 04:54 AM
luckyjimm luckyjimm is offline
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Default Bluffing someone off aces

How's this? Preflop was a "[censored] you, I'm going to crack your aces" call, which you will tell me was terrible. But postflop was interesting - I noticed he didn't bet the full pot. And I purposefully made my bet not quite all-in, to make it look more considered - somehow I've found that makes players more likely to fold. I was more worried about whether the small blind had deceptively checked.

So, good or spew?

GAME #688653029: Omaha PL $1.00/$2.00 16-Oct-2007 07:36:35
Table Santa Barbara
Seat 1: MP ($185.30 in chips)
Seat 3: CO ($253.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($200.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 6: SB ($320.80 in chips)
Seat 8: BB ($200.00 in chips)
Seat 10: UTG ($76.90 in chips)
SB: Post SB $1.00
BB: Post BB $2.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
UTG: Call $2.00
MP: Call $2.00
CO: Fold
Hero: Raise $11.00
SB: Call $10.00
BB: Raise $46.00
UTG: Fold
MP: Fold
Hero: Call $37.00
SB: Call $37.00
*** FLOP *** [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
SB: Check
BB: Bet $42.00
Hero: Raise $140.00
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

You probably have the best hand on the flop, so I don't know if I think this is a bluff
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

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You probably have the best hand on the flop, so I don't know if I think this is a bluff

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The best draw, certainly, but I'm not there yet.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

i think calling is about as scarey as it gets for AAxx here. you also get to find out if the SB wants to play without committing your stack
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

assuming no one has 78 you are in pretty good shape against the rest of their ranges. You have 14 straight outs and your 2 trip outs.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

I suppose in an extreme case where they both had high cards and no backdoor flush draws, it could be like this:

1) If BB has As Qc Kd Ah and SB folds Td Jd Qh Ks

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3801985
pokenum -o 7c 6d 4s 3d - ah as kd qc -- 6c 9s 5h / td jd qh ks
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 9s 6c 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
4s 7c 6d 3d 509 76.43 157 23.57 0 0.00 0.764
As Qc Kd Ah 157 23.57 509 76.43 0 0.00 0.236

2) If SB stays in

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3801995
pokenum -o 7c 6d 4s 3d - ah as kd qc - td jd qh ts -- 6c 9s 5h
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 9s 6c 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
4s 7c 6d 3d 465 69.82 201 30.18 0 0.00 0.698
As Qc Kd Ah 110 16.52 556 83.48 0 0.00 0.165
Ts Jd Td Qh 91 13.66 575 86.34 0 0.00 0.137

So yes, if they both have that sort of hand I'm a very big favourite.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

The whole hand is standard. You're never going to get anyone to fold AAxx when you push the flop, but it's still the right move to push SB out of the hand.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

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The whole hand is standard. You're never going to get anyone to fold AAxx when you push the flop, but it's still the right move to push SB out of the hand.

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I disagree, I think he will fold AA a bit. I agree the hand is standard.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Bluffing someone off aces

Yeah, they both folded. Thanks, guess it is pretty standard.
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