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04-01-2006, 04:13 PM
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Re: Stupid Dealer Trick #143
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[ QUOTE ] There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked). [/ QUOTE ] So the dealer was right. Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway. Sure, in a perfect world, the dealer keeps his mouth shut. But there are degrees to every infraction. I just don't see this in line with a capital offense. [/ QUOTE ] But how do you know the raising guy wouldn't reraise to $50 or something like that if it was already raised before him? Having the bet already be $15 when it gets to this guy could change the complexion of the hand completely. 
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#13
04-01-2006, 04:30 PM
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Re: Stupid Dealer Trick #143
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[ QUOTE ] There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked). [/ QUOTE ] So the dealer was right. Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Seconded. However, after someone made a comment I would have been apologetic. You guys don't know much about table dynamics huh.
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#14
04-01-2006, 04:31 PM
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Re: Stupid Dealer Trick #143
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked). [/ QUOTE ] So the dealer was right. Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Seconded. However, after someone made a comment I would have been apologetic. You guys don't know much about table dynamics huh. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked). [/ QUOTE ] So the dealer was right. Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway. Sure, in a perfect world, the dealer keeps his mouth shut. But there are degrees to every infraction. I just don't see this in line with a capital offense. [/ QUOTE ] But how do you know the raising guy wouldn't reraise to $50 or something like that if it was already raised before him? Having the bet already be $15 when it gets to this guy could change the complexion of the hand completely. [/ QUOTE ] ....Just because someone makes it $15 doesn't prevent anyone other than the original raiser from making it $50. In Foxwoods at least we allow more than one raise preflop.
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#15
04-01-2006, 05:26 PM
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Re: Stupid Dealer Trick #143
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Orleans? [/ QUOTE ] No, but I wandered over and did the breakfast buffet at Orleans when our table busted at 6:30. This was Excalibur. I didn't mention the location in the first post on purpose 'cause I knew folks would leap to the "of COURSE this happened at Excalibur" response. I was originally heading for MGM and then decided my feet didn't want to do the 3/8th mile hike from garage to poker room so I short-circuited. I'm amazed a few people here don't think the dealer intentionally miscalling the action is any big thing. It's a huge thing, only made small 'cause this was NL1/3. If the dealer tells the guy it's $3 like he should, there's a 40% chance the guy puts in $3 and I see a flop for free. There's also some chance the guy puts in $10 or $20 or $30--in the face of an early position raise, what mighta been a $30 raising hand may in this guy's mind become a calling hand. Regardless, the dealer basically decided on behalf of the player that he was raising, and how much, based on the dealer having seen about 3 hands. And once the money is out there, of course the player isn't taking it back. And Kansas DID stop raising 2 out of 3 hands eventually. When I first sat down he wasn't doing that. And once we took three or four stacks from him he stopped. He was just going through a phase at that time because he had accumulated about 8 stacks and was feeling frisky until we beat him back down.
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#16
04-01-2006, 05:49 PM
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Re: Stupid Dealer Trick #143
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[ QUOTE ] FLOOOOOOOOOOOOR!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] agreed. Let the floor handle it. It's not your place to instruct the dealer. And yes, the dealer was out of line. [/ QUOTE ] This seemed like one of those things where the dealer might actually get in some trouble if it was reported. Not working in the industry I dunno, but intentionally miscalling the action? That'd make me hot under the collar if I was working the floor. I didn't want him to get in trouble, just wanted to be sure he didn't do it again. The dealer was just getting a little too into the festivities and let himself get sucked into the game. I have no doubt he was really wishing he could be playing and not dealing. Doing it this way didn't alter the mood of the table, which was quite upbeat, and didn't tick off the dealer. Calling for a floor at that instant woulda been a serious downer, wouldn't have altered what was happening in the hand, and woulda left the dealer no doubt PO'd for having been reported. And getting up and reporting it away from the table is too much like coming in and telling the teacher what happened at recess. We're adults... we can work such things out amongst ourselves and stay friends, can't we? Took a single directed comment and my "please pay attention to what I'm saying" look and it was fixed. It's kinda interesting how there's the "FLOOR!" side of this, the "you did just right" side, and the "WHAT A NIT!" side. Total disagreement. COOL!
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#19
04-01-2006, 07:32 PM
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Re: Stupid Dealer Trick #143
The reason I said call the floor is because as soon as you make a comment YOU become the bad guy.
You should call the floor not on behalf of yourself, but on behalf of the poor player whom the dealer interfered with his action. "Mr. Floor, your dealer was asked a question by this poor abused genteleman. Your dealer responded in an inappropriate manner by blah blah blah etc" I was in the Bellagio over NEw Years when a dealer made a "joke" about one of the guys (there were a couple) with $5K in chips in front of them (4/8 game), sell a new player chips. One of the big stack players goes off, throws a fit, calls the floor, and reads the dealer the riot act for directing any comments specifically towards any player. This is a nit. Calling the floor in your situation in being a good samaritan.
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